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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 03:52 PM by looofo
I took some oil prices from the ACL site and tried to convert the min and max price in $ / Us Gallon. Hope I did no mistake.
(1 euro = 1.23$, and 1 US gallon = 3,785 litres). Correct me if I am wrong.
As you see some pay more than 6$ per gallon.

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www.acl.lu...)

Country..........98 oct..........95 oct........Diese.................$/US gallon
Germany.........1,366€.......1,293€........1,118€................6.35$
Austria............1,116€.......1,069€........1,010€
Belgium...........1,352€........1,338€.......1,087€
Danmark..........1,391€.......1,352€........1,196€
Spain...............1,142€........1,031€.......0,960€
France.............1,273€........1,237€........1,082€
UK....................1,377€........1,291€........1,353€
Italy.................1,258€........1,166€
Luxembourg.....1,160€........1,136€........0,954€
Norvay.............1,450€.........1,374€........1,261€............6,75 $
Netherland.......1,502€.........1,448€.......1,097€.............7,00 $
Switzerland.......1,063€........1,032€.........1,089€............4,95 $




reply posted on 19-4-2006 @ 03:22 PM by 5aret
I have to agree with you that this country is to dependent on the middle east for oil. But, as you can see, with the was in Iraq and a possible future war with Iran, it seems like the United States wants the control over the oil, but yet still the oil prices keep going up. And, the US has connections with OPEC. I dont think the US politicians are as innocent as they are portrayed in the media.

As for alternative fuel, that just simply not be possible at the moment.

Here is something I found on the Internet, from a Site called exit Mundi:

Hydrogen, then?
Little chance.

Hydrogen is indeed a cheap, clean energy source. But there's a catch: you can't find it anywhere in nature. You will have to make it first, by splitting up water (H2O) into hydrogen (H2) and oxygen (O2). And that costs you... yes, energy.

Next, you will have to compress your hydrogen into a high-pressure tank, in order to carry it around. Those tanks are heavy, and the compressing costs you even more energy. So in the end, you're better off using common fuel. Hydrogen costs you more energy than it will save you.

So, we'd go back to good old nuclear energy, right?

Score.
Nuclear power plants offer a limitless, steady and very reliable energy source. Ok, the downside is that every now and then, nuclear power plants tend to go kaboom, like they did in Harrisburg and Chernobyl. And then, there's the waste: radioactive mud, not to be touched for several hundreds of years. No one really knows where to put that. But perhaps, we're going to have to take problems like these for granted.


www.exitmundi.nl...

5aret


reply posted on 27-4-2006 @ 01:53 PM by Jaryn
Study: Ethanol Production Consumes Six Units Of Energy To Produce Just One

I found this article with a quick search. It's a short, easy read, cites a reputable source and also points out an opposing viewpoint (look at the very bottom of the article).

I've read quite a bit about ethanol production from reputable sources over the years and decided that I'm not ready to accept it as the 'cure' to fossil fuel woes that some (corn growers are one example) are trying to say it is.

Do some Google searches for yourself and make up your own minds...don't take it for granted just because it sounds so good at first glance.


reply posted on 27-4-2006 @ 02:52 PM by bigx01
Originally posted by Jaryn
Study: Ethanol Production Consumes Six Units Of Energy To Produce Just One

I found this article with a quick search. It's a short, easy read, cites a reputable source and also points out an opposing viewpoint (look at the very bottom of the article).

I've read quite a bit about ethanol production from reputable sources over the years and decided that I'm not ready to accept it as the 'cure' to fossil fuel woes that some (corn growers are one example) are trying to say it is.

Do some Google searches for yourself and make up your own minds...don't take it for granted just because it sounds so good at first glance.


this may be true for corn or sugarcane ethanol, but ethanol made from waste sugar found in a pulp mill's spent pulp liquer will not come close to that b/c you are using a waste product and waste heat to distill it. a material that you are recovering from waste.

do a little research on "puget sound pulp and timber" history and you will find that the dod back during wwii built the alcohol plant to recover the surgar and produce ethanol for the war. after the war the company bought the plant and it made a profit every year untill the pulp mill, where it got its waste surgar, closed in 2001.

screw the corn and cane ethanol. lets start recovering surgar we currently throw away. this is surgar that currently is paid for in the pulping process and is essentially free. requires no extra land and no extra energy to produce it.

write your congressman and ask them to learn from history on the alcohol plant that used to be in bellingham washington


reply posted on 21-4-2008 @ 06:35 PM by wyldwylly
Except Michigan will prob hit 5 bucks by Memorial / July 4th this year especially if you shop at, MidJim Convience Store off of Skunk Rd.... Source

We also have a massive price gouger here on the front range of Co. He usually charges about 50 Cents more per gallon than the going rate, unless you are a trucker, then you get a whole dollar increase per gallon. It amazes me that people will stop at this place, however I've seen a massive decline with cars at their pumps over the past 3-5 years... it's amazing these places stay in business, and it's even more amazing our Elected Prez doesn't care.


reply posted on 9-6-2008 @ 01:05 PM by romantic_insomniac
reply to post by 5aret



Let me explain something to you perhaps you did not know ; The recent acceleration in " We're Running Out Of Oil " talk is nothing more than a control mechanism that has been put in place in order to elicit fear.I know quite a few people in the industry,and there is oil out there.Those in power just want to drive a point home.
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