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HARM DEAD Attack Module (HDAM)

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posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 09:39 AM
Did some searching and didn't see this anywhere mentioned on the boards and I thought it was an important step for the USAF in their HARM program. The USAF plans to use this upgrade in conjunction with the HARM Targeting System (HTS)

The Navy is taking a different route with the AARGM.




posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 10:05 AM
What exactly is the HARM program that the USAF runs?

Thanks Im sorry that its a stupid question.

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posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:05 PM
Well, the Navy it the executive agent for HARM with Air Force participation. The Air Force (for the moment) is not purchasing the AARGM and they are going a different route with the HDAM and HTS.

Here is a good explanation;

[edit on 16-4-2006 by Blackfyre]

posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 01:31 PM
Don't forget HSAD/HSARM

As the High Speed ARM Demo and Missile.

Which is what the /original/ AARGM was supposed to include but which is now a separate program unto itself as a ramjet motor upgrade which provides 'over Mach 3' average cruise speeds out to roughly

posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 01:36 PM
From above link.

The Air Force's long-term vision moves away from using a dedicated anti-radar weapon altogether. The service wants to be able to use its aircraft to locate enemy radars precisely and deliver GPS-guided bombs and missiles that would have greater accuracy than HARM.

While both services are going their separate ways due to slightly different operational needs and requirements I am somewhat skeptical of the future plans the USAF seems to have. While the AGM-88 isn’t perfect one can only imagine that its targeting system will only get better in the future. And one can only wander how the USAF plans to get the aircraft close enough to locate and track enemy radars without being shot down by SAM’s.

posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 02:57 PM
Great post ch1466!

My understanding is that the USAF is also interested in ramjet motor for future HARM upgrades to increase range and speed. Though I don't have hard data on it, it won't suprise me if the USAF bought into the HSADs to strap on to their HARMs (with software upgrades of course). The HARM will also have to be modified to fit into the F-22/JSF, don't know if the HSADs helps with this or not.

The HDAM(with the GPS/INU) with the newest HTS's can fix the emiter location and turn the HARM into a mach 2/3 PGM with a 70nm+ range, which isn't to shabby. The HDAM will also prevent the missiles from "accidentally" going into friendly areas using the GPS system, this isolation system can also put bubbles around a suspected area for a target, preventing the HARM from striking anywhere outside that bubble.

If you look at slide 10,11 & 20 on this brief it also shows the USAF HARM future plans.

posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 01:10 PM

Originally posted by ch1466The reality remains that unless you have a lot of multi-band long baseline interferometric antennas to compare with (F-4G) or a very sophisticated doppler-harmonic 'slide' system, you won't be able to precisely pinpoint (range known) the target position...

well, there a re a couple of other methods that no-one seems to have thought of yet. Mostly I just wanted to comment that it is the USAF version the original post was talking about, and "very sophisticated" tends to be thier desired method of operations.

Ultimately, as long as you know that you are within range, that missile shouldn't need more than 1-2 seconds of flight time to determine roughly where it needs to land, and if it terminates it's flight with a steep dive angle, (say 45-60 degrees), who cares about slant range? Just keep going till you hit something.

posted on Dec, 23 2008 @ 12:48 PM
Pardon my relative ignorance but -
Aren't the Russians supplying Iran with S-300\s, which they claim to have 250nm of engagement range? What good is this missile with only 70nm of range? The guy on the ground is always going to have the edge on you in missile size/range.

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