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Best Psiwheel Video To Date?

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posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 08:29 AM
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Being interested in the paranormal and even part of the Psychokinetic Research Project here on ATS for a bit, I have seen a lot of psiwheel videos. Usually you can speculate on how it could possibly be a hoax, and just assume it is a fake.

But then I came online this morning to find a link to this in my inbox:

The Video!!!

First time I have actually seen someone set up the apparatus in their video in an attempt to show there is no hoax. They used clear plastic/glass and you can tell that nothing is hidden.

His hands seem far enough away and completely steady, so I don't think it could be the result of body heat or static.

What do people make of this?

The only thing that could convince me more is if he could do it without his hands near it at all.

[edit on 16-4-2006 by Yarcofin]




posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 08:33 AM
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Ah, nice. I concur!


*Edit*

Not sure, I mean I think it is pretty legit. You see everything assembled in front of you. He shields it with what looks to be a glass cover... and his hands, though near, are still a good distance a way. I mean I can't see what he would be doing to manipulate the movement other than some form of Psychokinetic capability.

[edit on 4/16/2006 by Rizin]



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 09:33 AM
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If this guy can duplicate this feat anywhere he should claim the $1 million $ that The amazing Randi has put up if any one can demonstrate genuine psi ability.

I watched it closely a few times and couldn't see anything.

I was impressed!!!



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 11:54 AM
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That is one hell of an amazing video! It even gives me the desire to learn it... And the will to believe in it. I dont ususally believe in psychic powers.

[edit on 16/4/06 by Thain Esh Kelch]



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:09 PM
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Hmm...I wonder, could he have used stop motion techniques on the camera? Theres just something fishy about the video...I cant place my finger on it.



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:16 PM
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Hmm, for stop motion wouldn't he have to have someone there to stop/start the camera so he didn't have to get up, and then pick that glass thing up move the wheel a tad, put the glass back in place, and get back in position? :/ Just look at the picture on his shirt, it doesn't really move at all and the chances of him leaning up and moving the wheel a tad, and getting back into the same exact position are slim. I have been awake for a very long time, and half of what I just said probably isn't lucid, forgive me.

[edit on 4/16/2006 by Rizin]



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:18 PM
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Right...so theres a camera man. An Accomplise. lol.

I dunno, theres just something fishy, but I guess I'm instantly suspicious about something that shows something moving without being touched.



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:29 PM
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Haha, I hear you. I am just saying, if you look at the position of the image on his shirt, it really doesn't move at all other than what looks to be breathing. I think it would be a tad more choppy and he wouldn't be in the exact same position when the camera stopped/started. At least not every time. You would eventually see him skip from one spot to another.



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:32 PM
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Well, I was noticing when he was doing the spinnng, his hands were rigid, but moving alittle jerky, compared ot when he backed his hands up or got up. Also, if he had a second accomplis, working the camera, the guy could just stay in his place, with his hands out, as the accomplise pulled up the cup, and moved the wheel a bit.



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:38 PM
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Why not try it out for yourselves?

TinWiki: Psiwheel

I’ve found out personally that with practice you can make the wheel move. I’ve never been able to make it spin as well as the person in this video though.
Maybe if I spent more time on it I could.



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:38 PM
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The jerking is probably him flexing. If the camera man or whom ever were to be lifting the glass and moving that wheel frame by frame, that means who ever is posing would be there for several hours... I hardly think he could sit there that long in the same exact position :/.



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:39 PM
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Okay, This Rocks

Of course, being a skeptic myself, I expect this video to be thoroughly scrutinized for "video magic" or reasonable explanations based on known physical principles.

I think it's important to always rule out the normal before assuming the paranormal.

With that in mind, this video rocks. Very nice demonstration, and very impressive all around.

I noticed that the wheel starts spinning after he puts his hands out, and stops spinning before he moves them away. That points away from thermal proximity effects, if not ruling them out entirely.

And yes, if this guy could do this under the watchful supervision of the Randi foundation, he could potentially walk away with a hell of a lot of money!







And it looks like he's his own cameraman, by the way.



posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 12:40 PM
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well, i guess its back to telekinesis for me....

i guess i better tell steveR that im gonna give up biokinesis on that research project....

hey thanks for finding that video....its awesome, and just gave me another boost of confidence, to try the psiwheel inside a container.



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 07:27 AM
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Yeah, if nothing else, this video gave me another boost of hope that psi abilties are actually real. After a long and boring period where nothing seemed to be happening and most videos and pictures were a bit fishy, it is a nice change of pace.

As I said, if he made another video without his hands anywhere near the glass it would be much better. If he panned the camera out a bit more and showed his face, it could rule out the stop animation bit as well.


Hmm...I wonder, could he have used stop motion techniques on the camera? Theres just something fishy about the video...I cant place my finger on it.


From my experience with stop motion video, it would have been a lot easier for him to just learn psychic powers
. I've made a few amateur stop motion videos with lego and some other stuff. But when it comes to people, they simply aren't designed to stay perfectly still for two minutes straight. If the glass was lifted or moved, I'd suspect you would see a drastic change in the reflection coming off of it. Having a person hold an object and then stopping, taking the object out of their hand, and making it appear as if the object has disappeared is one thing (pretty easy), but making a psiwheel stop-motion video is a whole other ballgame.


Well, I was noticing when he was doing the spinnng, his hands were rigid, but moving alittle jerky, compared ot when he backed his hands up or got up.


Have you ever tried to hold your hands straight out for two minutes? It gets a little jerky.... Now add in the nervousness of recording a video that you intend to release for the entire internet to see and comment on. And on top of that, if the video IS real, then he must have some sort of energy coming out of his hands as well.

I'm still not a 100% believer, but this video certainly raised my 'believe levels' about 15%.

A few more videos like this, and I don't think it will be deniable for much longer. And even if it is a fake, it's one hell of a magic trick.

[edit on 17-4-2006 by Yarcofin]



posted on Apr, 25 2006 @ 02:21 PM
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Hi all

IMHO I am suspicious. The objects she moves are a chrome salt cellar looking object, something that looks like a chrome plated lid and a matchbox. I am sure that some forms of stainless steel are not magnetic, but my money is on two magnetically influenced metal objects and a match box with a piece of magnetic metal inside. What does it for me is the general direction is toward her, that does not seem like control to me. Plus surely the objects should move faster the closer they get to her (inverse square law). I also note that there were some pen like objects standing on end. An easier test of her powers would surely have been to knock one of them over....perhaps they are not magnetic.

Summing up though it is hard to say as the video is edited, it is possible that she accomplished better feats but they are not evidenced here.

The psi wheel vid....Mmmmm. Looks good. Must look harder at the vid. Or try it myself



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 11:33 AM
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A long time ago I saw footage of someone who claimed to have telekinetic powers and to prove it, he would put a folded dollar bill under an upside down fish tank, and then cause the dollar bill to rotate using his telekinetic powers. I think the TV show I saw it on was That's Incredible (yeah, it was a long, long time ago).

Anyway, after the TV show host sealed the gap between the fish tank and the table top (or maybe they just repositioned the fish tank, the guy could no longer make the dollar bill spin. What he was doing was actually blowing air through a tiny gap between the fish tank and the table top. The guy got quite upset and kicked the table once it was shown that he was a phoney.

So ever since then, unless the item being moved is in a sealed container, I remain skeptical. Althouth I will admit that the fact that the piece of paper is placed on top of a pin does make it seem less likely that the person in the video is using air to move the item.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:13 PM
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Watched the clip several times, he holds his left hand (right to the camera lens) in the classic "magician" way. His index and middle finger on the left hand never seperate until the end of the clip. If you watch him set it up he clearly holds the pin in his left hand and secures it with his left hand. At no point until the end do his index and middle finger seperate. Classic...not a bad show though.

Watch any magician and the hands are held the same way. His right hand is the distraction.

Sorry but I think it's just a relatively good magic trick.



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:30 PM
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Why dont you try it, You'll be suprised. I was! It took me only a few days if that to easily move the psiwheel. It takes about two minutes to set up if that and it gives hours of fun!



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Vowles
Why dont you try it,


IMO that sentence should be in huge letters in a large pop up everytime such threads with simple techniques are posted on ATS.


so to all the naysayers...


Why don't you try it???



posted on Apr, 27 2006 @ 07:03 PM
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I can do this myself. It's really simple to learn. I also went out and bought a radiometer to rule out air currents, and can spin it without using my hands, so no body heat either.

Using your hands is just a mental crutch and most people do it because the articles that explain how tell them that it might help them learn easier.

Your mental state and thoughts have a ***HUGE*** impact on your ability to do TK. When I first covered a psi-wheel with a glass I could not make it move at ALL for about 1/2 hour because I was thinking the glass might make it harder to move or somehow block the ability so it did. But once I got over that it was just as easy as without the glass.



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