First of all, I would like to thank you guys for being brave in answering my thread. I find that I am rather courageous in posting this thread
because sometimes, I read on the board that people are quick to use stereotypes to condemn a group of people instead of asking the needed questions
why a particular race does something.
I agree with seagull that discussing race honestly is a taboo for some on the board, because it is an uncomfortable topic. Most, but not all, would
rather reside in their stereotypes instead of asking questions about that particular race. I just want to say that I want to listen and learn from
other people so I can help dispell the stereotypes I have too.
Originally quoted by seagull
Now, having said that. I do have a real problem with folks playing the race card in society, and politics. I have long since lost any respect I ever
had for the Rev. Jesse Jackson for precisely that reason. At every oportunity, he plays the race card, his speeches that portray every
african-american as a victim of either overt and/or covert racism, as a white very anglo-saxon, though not so protestant male, I find that insulting
to me as a person. He isn't the only one that does this by any stretch, just the one that comes to mind first. I have no racist tendencies that I am
aware of. Nor have I ever had any pointed out to me by any non-caucasion friends, of which I have several.
seagull, I think that is a good question to bring up. It is easy to see that Rev. Jackson plays the "race card". It is easy to see that he might
be perceived as an "ambulance chaser" in terms of being there everytime something affects the Black community. However, I tend to view him in his
historical context. He was right there at the side of Rev. Dr. King when he was shot. He walked with him on his marches in the South. And, he among
other people, took up the torch to highlight racial injustice. This is not to excuse him for his scandals. But, I think that he plays an important
role in the African-American community because he does address concerns about racism against Blacks.
I do not think that he is as outrageous as people play him out to be. His speeches (which I saw one several years back) are inspiring. I think that
the feeling outside of the community in which he is "pulling the race card" might be perceived is because he is constantly bringing up race in his
talks. But, one must think that he also went overseas to bring peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians. He has also played an important role
in trying to campaign for the rights of the poor and the working class.
So, he has a varied, interesting record. But, I see him more than just "pulling the race card".
Btw, can anyone explain to me what exactly the criteria of pulling the race card means? I think I have a meaning of what it means. And in the
Cynthia McKinney thread, HarlemHottie brought it up and no one answered her. So, I'll ask it here again.
Why do White people constantly say that when African-American leaders speak on certain issues, they "pull the race card"? Do you think that is a
cop out for not listening to what the dignitaries have to say? Or, is there really a specific problem in this? To be fair, I could also say that
some white males "pull the race card" when talking about "quotas" and "reverse racism".
As for "ganstas", the same could be said for Eminem and the Beastie Boys. They both adopt the "gansta image". But no one ever says that they are
"role models" for the White Community. This is not to discount what you said, because it is a problem in the African-American community. But,
perhaps hip-hop developed as a way to talk about the conditions of the Black community (as well as slam poetry), they have a prominent role (such as
Dr. Dre and Ice Cube [who produced the show Black/White on FX]). But that's not to say they are the only "role models" of the Black community. I
believe there are other people within the African-American community to look up to that have nothing to do with hip-hop.
Hip hop, in itself, has provided a bridge between different races and cultures. It still can be used to talk about life in general. But I think what
you wanted to address is its commercialization and immersion into the mainstream. The mainstreaming of "gansta rap" has its problems because some
songs do advocate violence. I don't like that at all. But there are other songs that actually address issues that won't be talked about in the
media. It can be used as a political art form. That is one of the virtues of hip-hop. But "gansta" rap is simply a genre.
As for Charles Barkley, he said that he "wasn't a role model" several years back, I think.
Originally quoted by Benevolent Heretic
I mean, what is there to discuss about race? What specifically did you have in mind to discuss?
Benevolent Heretic, that's a great question as well. I started the thread for anyone to ask any questions they have about another race. And
hopefully, someone representative of that race could explain these questions civilly without anyone getting mad. That's what I meant. But I am glad
that you are one of the ones that speak up against stereotypes because just one voice makes a difference.
My other question is, why is everyone quick to blame the African-American community when they come out supporting an issue that is contrary to what
others believe? For example, whenever a prominent African-American (or perhaps, not so prominent), gets into scandal or in trouble with the law, the
first thing people from other races get upset about is "what the Black community" says. Or that "the Black community is out to blame the (i.e.,
the system, the cops, the politicians)." Doesn't anyone see that Black people are individuals too? And that they have different opinions? But,
whenever people see a group of Black people on television supporting a particular person or cause--it is immediately pointed out as "the Black
community". Is that a problem of the media?
[edit on 16-4-2006 by ceci2006]