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Is Iran trying to pick a fight withe U.S.and Israel???

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posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by WIGAN MIKE
What exactly is Iran doing wrong though?
Iran is making plans to destroy all none Muslim counties, there starting with Israel, because thats generally where alot of Christians look, towards Christianity, so in effect it would be a direct stab at the western world through Christianity, as Christians have a effect on the Western world.

I've also read else where, so what if Israel gets blown out the waters, what concern is it of ours..


MIKE


one Iran would never use a nuke on Israel for one reason it contains one of islams most holiest shrines (Dome of the Rock)

so no Iran would not nuke Israel





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Dome of the Rock:
Located in Jerusalem, the Dome of the Rock is a Muslim shrine which stands on the site which is traditionally believed to be the place where the first Jewish temple was built. It was also here that people believe Abraham tried to sacrifice his son to God, and where Muhammad is believed to have ascended into heaven in order to receive God's commandments.

For Muslims, then, this has become the third holiest site for pilgrimage, after Mecca and Medina. It is probably the oldest surviving example of early Islamic architecture and is modeled after the Christian Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is located nearby.




[edit on 17-4-2006 by bodrul]




posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 09:16 AM
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[Mod Edit: removed unnecessary quote of entire preceeding post]


Ok, so Jerusalem is out of bonds for Iran. What about Tel' Aviv and Haifa? (Combined population, over 3 million.) Are they also holy sites, or the epicenters of Zionist aggression?

Iran clearly either feels threatened, or feels as if they are the speartip of Islam. Either bodes bad for the world in general, no matter what side of the aisle you are in.




Mod Edit: Big Quote – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 4/17/2006 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by stumason
Therefore, the onus (it's a real word, you know) is on the accusers to prove that Iran is lying.


LOL!...I like the way you put that…. I was merely attempting to bring attention to the implications (not the word itself) of the real burden is upon Iran because of its’ obligations to the NNPT and subsequent safeguards agreements and additional protocols.


Originally posted by stumason
Iran has co-operated with IAEA, who say there is no evidence of a Nuclear Weapons programme.


For some reason the remainder of my other post is missing, most of it is not applicable now, however included was the comment of El Baradei.


The head of the world's nuclear watchdog declared on Monday night that he cannot give Iran's nuclear programme a clean bill of health, blaming Tehran for frustrating almost three years of inspections and detective work by experts from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

The damning verdict delivered by Mohamed El Baradei, the head of the IAEA, set the scene for a diplomatic battle next week in Vienna when the IAEA's 35-strong board is to take the long-running dispute to the United Nations Security Council in New York.

Source, Feb 2006
This was covered on many media outlets, I grabbed the first one.


Really, there has been little to no cooperation from Iran, repeated calls for transparency and answers to questions which all primarily go unheeded.

A secret program spanning decades forced into the open then a refusal to ‘open the gates’ widely. Not to convincing.

Trust and verification are very real issues here.


Originally posted by stumason
It is the US/EU that doesn;t believe it, so they should cough up whatever "proof" they have in order for it to be discussed.


Apparently the IAEA is not really buying what Iran is selling either. Although the recent IAEA public statement appears to be on the fence, it is shrouded in diplomatic language...non favorable to Iran.


mg



posted on Apr, 17 2006 @ 12:41 PM
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Yes, Iran's leadership is trying to provoke a confrontation (if not an actual war) with the US and Israel, largely for domestic political reasons. They are succeeding too - by focusing attention on external threats, they are sucessfully distracting their population from the internal political, economic, and demographic realities that threaten the rule of the Imams.




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