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DSA: premeditated voter fraud?

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posted on Oct, 24 2002 @ 01:03 PM
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I tried posting last week and it was deleted 3 times by the hackers here. Since then the Democratic Socialists deleted it from their website, but I have a copy of the text that appeared on their web via a pop-up of all things. I am not familiar with the same day voter registration in MN, though it seemed to get Jesse elected. Does this seem fraudulent to anyone? It's starts off by saying 'send a student to MN' but then mentions registering young Minnesotans' hmmm. Here's the text that from DSAUSA.ORG

Send A Student To Minnesota!
DSAís national electoral project this year is the Minnesota Senate Election. Together with YDS, DSAís Youth Section, we are mobilizing to bring young people to Minnesota. Minnesota is one of the few states that allow same day voter registration. We will therefore focus our energy on registering young Minnesotans. Wellstone will need a high percentage of young people to register and vote for him if he is to stave off the campaign that Bush, the Republicans and the Greens are waging against him. He is the Rightís Number One electoral target.

Because we are focusing on issue-based voter registration, this electoral work can be supported by tax-deductible contributions. The DSA FUND is soliciting tax-deductible contributions to support this project. Contributions are needed to underwrite the costs of transportation as well as providing a stipend for expenses; housing is being donated. You can contribute online with a Master Card or VISA. To contribute, simply choose from one of the amounts listed below. Click on the red dot and you will be taken to a secure server to input your credit card information. Our online order system does not allow us to let you fill in an amount, so if the choices we offer are less than what you want to contribute simply make more than one transaction until you reach the total you want to contribute.



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To contribute offline:
Make your check payable to DSA FUND, indicate Minnesota Project on the check or in your letter and return it to DSA FUND, 180 Varick St., 12th fl., NY, NY 10014



[Edited on 24-10-2002 by Bob88]

[Edited on 24-10-2002 by Bob88]




posted on Oct, 24 2002 @ 10:06 PM
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quite an interesting article on this whole murky business here:
startribune.com...



posted on Oct, 24 2002 @ 10:55 PM
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Good find!

crazy politics and a bit of hypocrisy out of the dems. Tight race up there with a lot at stake. Throw in a Green and indy and who know what will happen. Those two 3rd parties may not help Wellstone.



posted on Oct, 25 2002 @ 12:14 PM
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the weird and wonderful, and possibly wicked, ways of Minnesota are not a new phenomenon: there was much hubbub concerning both Gore and Nader in the 2000 elections, in this context, for example.
Minnesota pretty much follows the US norm in formal criteria; but then it has -it's not unique -this "instant registration wheeze and this is apparently most effective with student registration.
The rules are less than stringent:

A current Minnesota driverís license, learnerís permit, Minnesota identification card, or receipt for any of these with your current address.
A student photo ID card, registration or fee statement with the studentís current address in the precinct, or only the student photo ID if you are on a student housing list on file at the polling place.
A photo ID without current address together with a utility bill that contains your name, current address within the precinct with a payment due date within 30 days of the election. Acceptable photo IDís are: MN driverís license, MN State ID, U.S. passport, military ID or college ID. Acceptable utility bills are: cable TV, electric, gas phone, sewer, solid waste or water.
A previous registration in the same precinct but at a different address.
A "notice of late registration" postcard.
The oath of someone who is registered in the precinct where you live to vouch for you at the polling place. A voter who registers by this method may not confirm the residency of another voter on the day of the same election.

very odd -very student biased.
And pretty tough that last clause.
With very little expenditure -relatively -and even less violence - it's probably the easiest state to manipulate.
And that is exactly what Estragon thinks is happening here - a recently arrived student from the other end of the Union can cancel the vote of a lifelong Minnesotan- and a notional third party can swing it to either of the big two: very surreptitiously..
Three cheers for democracy!



posted on Oct, 25 2002 @ 12:49 PM
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This is interesting story.news.yahoo.com.../ap/plane_down

You have probably guessed I wanted Wellstone to lose the race but certainly not like this!



posted on Oct, 26 2002 @ 01:36 AM
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this is just so bloody strange, Bob -it was the first item on the morning news here -about midnight GMT -and I almost jumped when I heard it: I'd been writing to the Board about the business and Minnesota just 8 hours previously.
A tragic accident or something very,very nasty.



posted on Oct, 26 2002 @ 09:39 AM
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very strange indeed. I was actually in the middle of a reply to your post here and I paused for some reason or another and saw the news on Yahoo, cleared out whatever nonsense I already typed in then posted that link. PBS re-ran some interview they recently had with him last night. Very sad. Especially about his daughter who was on board.



posted on Oct, 26 2002 @ 08:07 PM
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and, while I think this is a very questionable affair, common decency seems to dictate that one should post while bearing in mind that the likeliest explanation is that this was a tragic accident that left many to mourn.





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