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Iran has finally won its right to nuclear technology and nothing can stop us.

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posted on Apr, 12 2006 @ 04:17 PM
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when i first came to this forum i remember how some two faced people were always saying iran is going to get bombed or were going to war with iran or invade the country and install a new government and now i look back on those people and what they said gives me every right to taunt them and laugh at their faces knowing they were wrong and their stupidity got right to em. We have now mastered nuclear technology and were going to make our own indegnious nuclear reactors close to this year which is months away from being constructed. Were going to make our nuclear reactors all around the country and even if we are attacked its still wont do anything and we sure as hell could just make more and besides not to mention there will be a big chance of US occupation being ended in middle east. i dont care what those people say anymore and the people who keep bad mouthing know nothing is going to happen so they bring out their anger instead, poor skippy always hoping something would happend but too bad it failed..Bush still sided with the diplomatic course even when we announced the enrichment capabilities, Israel is even scared saying we dont want military action and instead we would rather see america do it... my response to everybody is accept iran as a nuclear power and accept the fact that your gonna have to live with it and not make a big bluff out of it.



MOSCOW. April 12 (Interfax) - The U.S. government has not taken a
decision to use armed force in Iran, acting U.S. Assistant Secretary of
State for International Security and Non-Proliferation Stephen Rademaker
said.
Neither his government, nor the governments of other countries have
decided to use armed force in Iran, he told a Wednesday news conference
at the Interfax central office in Moscow.
The United States, together with other countries, is making all
necessary efforts to find a diplomatic solution to the Iranian problem,
he said.

www.interfax.com...




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posted on Apr, 12 2006 @ 08:46 PM
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Congrats Mehran. Now if they stay on the course of peaceful use it will be great. Your country could have a lot of potential for enriching uranium for power consumption since it is a great commodity and it is one of your countries resources. Since Oil is not an infinite resource this will be great for your people as long as they use it for peaceful purposes and supply others in this booming technology. It would be very sad for all the Americans that were against any type of attack if things went the path of using it for harmful purposes. I would hate to look like or be made a fool of by having them turn around and use it for weaponry as they claimed they wouldn't. I can assure you that if that were the case, No one would be behind you in the future. There would only be the skippy's of the world and that would be it.

Good Luck

Pie



posted on Apr, 12 2006 @ 08:53 PM
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Good luck with that! I hope nothing does happen. Really.



posted on Apr, 12 2006 @ 09:02 PM
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Hey Mehran, just a thought - Do you ever have anything NOT Iran related to talk about or are you limited in scope? Eh? Do you enjoy UFO's? Freedom? Gardening? Non-alcoholic jello-shots? Falafels? Or just Iran? BTW: Thanx for the Iran stuff... gives me something to chat about at the 711.



posted on Apr, 12 2006 @ 09:26 PM
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Why should the West not be wary of Iran's pursuit of nuclear technology?

With a leader that openly calls for the destruction of Israel, it's no wonder why the United States would demand that Iran dismantle their nuclear programs.

We're keeping a very close eye on the Iranian government, as if you didn't know, and one act of aggression towards Israel will mean "rains of fire" falling from the skies over Tehran.

One question though. Are the people of Iran so loyal to a disillusioned leader that they'd actually let themselves be destroyed by the acts of fanatical madman or are they just so full of hate towards the West they don't care to be destroyed?

It's up to the people of Iran what they want. Not a madman hell-bent on exalting himself in such a way that it'll destroy everything around him.

The people of Iran love democracy. It's been shown in your recent history. What happened?

I do know this. About 20 years ago, the Iranian government banned all private ownership of firearms. The people refused to give up their arms. What did the government do then? They randomly chose neighborhoods and raided an unannouced house and if any firearms were found, the family was place on the frone lawn (father, mother and children) and executed. It was only after several of these incidents when firearms started showing up on the side of the roads for the government to gather up.

Mehran, you and the people of Iran need to revole and take back Iran from the overzealots who rule your country. Don't sit around and wish about it. It takes action and sacrifice.

I just want you to know that an Iran with nuclear capabilties is not good for the Iranian people.

[edit on 12/4/06 by Intelearthling]



posted on Apr, 13 2006 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Mehran
We have now mastered nuclear technology and were going to make our own indegnious nuclear reactors close to this year which is months away from being constructed.


Mastered Nuclear Technology eh? A little ahead of ourselves aren't we? I still don't know why one of the worlds largest sources of oil needs nulear power, or why they are testing missles capable of carrying nuclear warheads if they have only peaceful aims.

Misplaced trust, in this case, is as deadly as a nuclear weapon...



posted on Apr, 15 2006 @ 12:42 AM
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I think everybody realizes that irans days are numbered. America has no tolerance for big mouths. I'd say iran will be in big trouble by mid summer.
Of course russia and china will take advantage of that.
Iran knows they're safe as long as we have troops on both sides of them, radiation could get our guys too. So we'd have to kit them with a couple dozen tomahawks. iran should have waited to talk all that trash.



posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 10:41 AM
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Accept Iran as a nuclear power??????


AHAHAHHAHAAHAHHHAAA!!!!!!!! oh wait your serious.....ahhhhaahahahah. Only thing I can say to iran joining the world as a nuclear power is ," KA-BOOM"!!!!! cruise missle might change that.



posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Intelearthling
Why should the West not be wary of Iran's pursuit of nuclear technology?

With a leader that openly calls for the destruction of Israel, it's no wonder why the United States would demand that Iran dismantle their nuclear programs.


Ahmadinejad would not nuke Israel, he knows he would get hundreds back in return, and in nuking Israel, you nuke Palestinians too.

Ahmadinejad's comment of wiping Israel off the map could mean in political terms in removing the political structure in Israel and replacing it.

He does not say anything about doing this militarily, or that Iran would be the ones doing it.

I am wary of English translations of his speechs as the English translation may not be the exact wording he said.



Originally posted by Intelearthling
We're keeping a very close eye on the Iranian government, as if you didn't know, and one act of aggression towards Israel will mean "rains of fire" falling from the skies over Tehran.


Aggression to show that aggression is wrong.

Be careful about prophesising "rains of fire" on Tehran, Mehran may have relatives in Tehran and you should bear that in mind.

If the Iranian government did attack Israel, why should Iranians and their families have to suffer? Is it their fault that US foreign policy towards Iran, which has included the toppling of a democracy in Iran and the imposing of The Shah in the 50's which led to the Revolution of '79, has given Iran's rulers political ammunition to rally against the West?



Originally posted by Intelearthling
One question though. Are the people of Iran so loyal to a disillusioned leader that they'd actually let themselves be destroyed by the acts of fanatical madman or are they just so full of hate towards the West they don't care to be destroyed?


A percentage of Iranians don't support Ahamdinejad, or the Ayatollahs, but feel if India, Pakistan, and Israel, all local neighbours can have nuclear programmes, why can't Iran?

The distrust of the US comes from US near one sides stance on the Israel-Palestinian issue, the CIA-MI6 toppling of a democracy in the 50's that led to the Shah being imposed as ruler, leading to Revolution of '79, the US support for Saddam in the Iraq-Iran War, and the shooting down of an Iranian passenger plane 'accidentally' in the 80's.



Originally posted by Intelearthling
It's up to the people of Iran what they want. Not a madman hell-bent on exalting himself in such a way that it'll destroy everything around him.


The people of Iran want to live in peace. Ahmadinejad may Yak, but don't believe everybody is behind him. You do, and you forget that each Iranian is an individual person.

Contary to popular belief, not every Iranian walks around wearing a suicide belt denouncing 'The Great Satan'.



Originally posted by Intelearthling
The people of Iran love democracy. It's been shown in your recent history. What happened?


The CIA and MI6 toppled the elected Iranian leader in the 50's, because he threatened British and American business interests in Iran by nationalising the oil fields. The US and UK backed Shah was imposed as ruler, and ruled from the 50's until 1979 in a tyrannical and dictatorial manner.

In the Iranian Revolution, which overthrew the Shah, all political and social blocs took part. It just so happened that Ayatollah Khomeini seized it as his own revolution.

The Iranians voted in the last election that elected Ahmadinejad which was far from perfect.

The Iranian's last president was a moderate cleric, but to many Iranians frustration, was weakened in his attempts at reform.

In protest, a hard liner was elected, a message from the Iranians to the moderates "If you won't bring forth reform, we will protest vote until you have the balls to go through with reform if elected."




Originally posted by Intelearthling
Mehran, you and the people of Iran need to revole and take back Iran from the overzealots who rule your country. Don't sit around and wish about it. It takes action and sacrifice.


A percentage of Iranians are revolting, in their own way.

Iranian blogs are a headache in particular to the Ayatollahs.

There are reformists.

But bombing them will make the nation united against an external force.

What is positive to see about the US if the US bombs are killing their families?



Originally posted by Intelearthling
I just want you to know that an Iran with nuclear capabilties is not good for the Iranian people.

[edit on 12/4/06 by Intelearthling]


For the Iranians, it creates jobs, and is a technology many are proud of.

Being bombed would certainly not be good for the Iranian people.



posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 11:43 AM
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Should Iran be allowed to have nuclear reactors? In my opinion yes absolutely. If the Iranians keep the technology in a peaceful manner then all power to them. If they talk about violent acts involving nuclear weapons and then create those weapons well that is different.


Were going to make our nuclear reactors all around the country and even if we are attacked its still wont do anything and we sure as hell could just make more and besides not to mention there will be a big chance of US occupation being ended in middle east.


Err if America attacked in full force it would do something. They have enough conventional firepower to flattern virtually any country. If they used tactical nukes then it would cause an enormous amount of damage to your country. On the other hand if they did that then every other country would really sit up and take notice. I am willing to bet most countries would greatly dislike the USA if they used those weapons.

Anyway all power to a peaceful Iran. Hopefully you can show the world you will use the technology to simply build reactors and propel your country peacefully forward into this new millenium.



posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by Mehran
www.interfax.com...




I'm sorry to tell you, dear Mahran, but your wishes close to fail. It's the Iranian regime, mainly President Ahmadinijad, have the choice to decide whether Iran turn to be the next target of the US/Europe/Israel/Arab Emirates and others or to apply to US demand to stop creating nuclear fuel for A-bombs. I really don't know why Iran chose to mess in such a risky policy and I don't see why they are so eager to run into that process, but to annihilate Israel and attacking some European and Arab Persian Gulf States.

The free world can't accept such threat and will have to act properly in due time. For the better for the good Iranian people I hope that some inner changes will occur and the Ayatollahs' regime will stop acting in Iran and Iran will be free Muslim state again.



posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Regensturm



Ahmadinejad would not nuke Israel, he knows he would get hundreds back in return, and in nuking Israel, you nuke Palestinians too.

Ahmadinejad's comment of wiping Israel off the map could mean in political terms in removing the political structure in Israel and replacing it.

He does not say anything about doing this militarily, or that Iran would be the ones doing it.

I am wary of English translations of his speechs as the English translation may not be the exact wording he said.


Ahmadinejad spoke very clearly more than once that his aim is to delete Israel. He pushed himself and Iran into the political chaos and noother one should pulled him out of his boiling water.

I believe Ahmadinajad and sure he is acting to annihilate Israel and may be some others Sunny Arab Gulf states. I'm also sure that his religious extremism leads him to such bhave and he really thinks that Allah chose him to be the 12th messenger that will show up just before doomsday.


A percentage of Iranians don't support Ahamdinejad, or the Ayatollahs, but feel if India, Pakistan, and Israel, all local neighbours can have nuclear programmes, why can't Iran?


I never heard that India, Pakistan or Israel intimidated others by crashing them with nuke. Iran leadership seems crazy-like to outsiders and their behave, including promoting extreme Islamic terror groups all over the world (and enlisting 40,000 Muslim suicide bombers to act against the West !!! with chemical and biological elements?) makes the worlds more dangerous to leave in.



posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 06:46 PM
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I think that IF Iran truely does want nuclear power for "peaceful purposes" then they should be allowed to have it. But the reason that everyone is worried is not only your presidents statements of destruction towards isreal, but the fact that he WILL NOT cooperate with the international demands (not just the USA here, MANY countries are involved in this). I feel if you REALLY have nothing to hide and dont have any hidden agendas, then why wont you allow international monitering? If you want to play with the big boys of the world, your going to have to play by their rules



posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 07:06 PM
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'"Mastered it" you sure about that? Furthermore I would say that Iran obtained Nuke technology via rather unscrupulous methods indeed. All the same so have most of the other countries in the club' and that in itself is a big part of the problem isn't it?

For a country rich in hydrocarbon fuels I still see no reason for nuclear power generated electricity and I'm hoping that that is all it is ever used for.

Will you be typing posts to explain to us what is going on when Iran starts threatening people with the nuclear bomb too?



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Allegro
Ahmadinejad spoke very clearly more than once that his aim is to delete Israel. He pushed himself and Iran into the political chaos and noother one should pulled him out of his boiling water.


Ahmadinejad is said to have said "Wipe Israel off the map" according to a translation.

That is what the translation interpreted.

As I have said, we must be very careful as to what can be interpreted in translation from his language to ours.

"Wipe Israel off the map" can mean politically, perhaps referring the way Israel/Palestine is governed and it's political infrastructure.

It's the translation and interpretation, that we must all be cautious about.

Iran and Israel have had a war of words since 1979. But no war has happened.

For Ahmadinejad's nuclear programme and possible a couple of nukes, Israel has an estimated 400.

If Iran were to launch it's nukes, it would receive hundreds in reply.

Iran can not wipe out Israel with a nuke without wiping out Palestinians too.

If this happened, it's fair to say the Muslim World would hate Ahmadinejad too.



Originally posted by Allegro
I believe Ahmadinajad and sure he is acting to annihilate Israel and may be some others Sunny Arab Gulf states. I'm also sure that his religious extremism leads him to such bhave and he really thinks that Allah chose him to be the 12th messenger that will show up just before doomsday.


Watching too much Faux News can be bad for you.

The Mahdi, the hidden messenger will not be Ahmadinejad. The Mahdi appears (Alongside Jesus, according to Islam) when there is Armegeddon, in order to bring peace out of armegeddon for all mankind.



Originally posted by Allegro
I never heard that India, Pakistan or Israel intimidated others by crashing them with nuke.


India and Pakistan often intimidated each other with their nuclear option in the India-Pakistan stand off not long ago. They've also been at war with each other many times.

Israel warned Egypt about the nuclear option in the Yom Kipper War.


Originally posted by Allegro
Iran leadership seems crazy-like to outsiders and their behave, including promoting extreme Islamic terror groups all over the world (and enlisting 40,000 Muslim suicide bombers to act against the West !!! with chemical and biological elements?) makes the worlds more dangerous to leave in.


The '40,000' have signed up to attack 'the enemy' should Iran be attacked, and can be compared to Americans signing up to the military to kill if America was attacked.

It makes the world more dangerous to live in if we attacked Iran.



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