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Originally posted by Vinci
I've been thinking...
Suppose the Bible is centered around an Alien species rather than spiritual beings. I do strongly believe there are aliens/ufo's in the Bible, hell, just read the first chapters of Ezekiel, but I don't quite believe that Jesus was an alien and all that jazz.
But suppose that that's true, Jesus was an alien, God is just some supreme being merely in a different dimension. If this is all true, what's hell? What's heaven? Explain Genesis, does that mean we're some experimental species? What are the dark angels that roam around on earth? How does prayer work?
Just one supposition: God is an alien, can change the WHOLE Bible and everything in it. IE Angels are Aliens, Dark Angels = Evil Aliens? Etc. etc.
I don't believe it, just a fun thought. Something before bed, y'know.
The beings of the Bible, called God, possess and use an advanced technology that allows them to fly in vehicles, described by the biblical witnesses as strikingly similar to UFOs. This technology extends far beyond flight. The church has chosen to ignore the biblical evidence that supports this, in spite of hundreds of biblical verses proving it. This practice of ignoring biblical text extends beyond the technical aspects of God into areas of specific biblical commands and core concepts. Not only the obvious exclusion of this reality, but also the characterization of demonic association by the more zealous, gives rise to the evidence of a conspiracy of ignorance either in place, or in the making.
Originally posted by Vinci
Okay, since you believe that this is all reference to UFO's and that angels are aliens etc., you must believe that Jesus was an alien, that God is an alien, etc.
So if you do believe in that, what's heaven? what's hell? what are the fallen angels?
If not; just a fun thought. Heaven = their planet? Hell = coal mines on a volcano planet? fallen angels = different alien species?
Would make an AWESOME science-fiction movie.
Originally posted by Vinci
Uh, you mean like..the ufo's we photograph are fallen angels?
The Lord Yhovah of the Old Testament, who became the Lord Jesus of the New Testament, is described as flying in thick clouds, swift clouds, bright clouds, dark clouds, white clouds, low clouds, great clouds, and fiery clouds. There are platforms, vessels, whirling chariots of fire, sky thrones, fiery horses, cherubims, thick darkness, great fire, whirlwinds, fiery wheels, pavilions, dark waters, storms, sky dwellings, rolls, and sanctuaries. Whether, or not, one believes these objects are actually flying vehicles that the God of the Bible lives in, appears with, travels in, and is considered the seat of his power is a matter of opinion. The fact that they do not appear without him or his ambassadors, and that, in most major appearances, he and other beings are clearly described as directly associated with these flying objects, is undeniable.
The fact that the objects described in the Bible are controlled, flying craft, is borne out by the flight characteristics of those objects. In Bible text the objects associated with the Elohiym are shown to exhibit rapid, prolonged flight, they ascend and descend, and they hover for extended periods. If these objects were just ethereal images created by ethereal beings, these flight descriptions would have no relevance. The fact that the authors wrote about the flight routine of these objects is evidence that they have a distinct physical presence.
Two main beings are directly associated with the flying vehicles, the Elohiym, the gods, (See The Reality of God), and the Malak, the angels). Others include Archangels, Elders, Ministers, Saints, Watchers, and Men. There is another group which, though assumed to be living entities, are described in a manner that indicates they may be devices or machines. This group includes Cherubim, Seraphim, Living Creatures, and Beasts. Also presented are the beings that are associated with the modern UFO phenomenon by misplaced religious zeal; Satan and devils. A fleet of flying vehicles, described as the army, or Hosts, of Yhovah, appears several times and the importance of this fleet to the Biblical narrative is seriously underrated. Close encounters, from face to face conversations and beam-ups to meetings, are well documented in Biblical text and are a major part of many of the Bible's, more phenomenal, events. The nature of Yhovah in his human form as Jesus is a grossly neglected aspect of the Bible. Another questionable facet of accepted Biblical doctrine is the Holy Spirit as an individual member of a supreme triad. Is the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost a being or a spiritual force? And, do angels have wings, halos, and harps? If they do, the Bible doesn't mention this, nor does it mention a devil with horns, a pitchfork or a pointed tail.
Originally posted by undo
Love that website, Funkydung.
The quote makes a couple points I disagree with, specifically that "Seraphim" are devices or machines. There's scriptural support that the serpent in the garden was a "seraphim", which technically means "fiery, flying serpent": a dragon. To me this translates: reptilian extra-terrestrial in a spacecraft.
[edit on 18-4-2006 by undo]
Originally posted by darkelf
Not sure how accurate Wiki is here but:
On occasion, Chornobyl has been translated controversially to mean simply "wormwood" (which most commonly refers to Artemisia absinthium), with consequent apocalyptic associations, that spread as far as Poland before Serge Schmemann of the New York Times published "Chernobyl Fallout: Apocalyptic Tale", July 25, 1986. The article quoted an unnamed "prominent Russian writer" as claiming the Ukrainian word for wormwood was chernobyl.