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reply posted on 13-4-2006 @ 01:13 AM by smallpeeps
Originally posted by WestPoint23
He was a nice shot and could have easily in my opinion shot JFK, and he had ample time to get off all three shots.

The car is moving at speed and when his body goes limp the momentum of the car pushes his body back instead of forwards, you feel this effect every time you are in car that's accelerating.

As much of a conspiracy nut as I am, I am recently leaning toward Westy's points here. I don't believe Oswald was "maggie's drawers". I think he was hard, and definately a CIA tool. Now was he an MKultra asset? That may never be known. Also, the point about acceleration makes sense because if the driver is accelerating, a backward-tilt of the head seems reasonable, particularly for a subject that has been shot in the throat.

Westy, what is your take on Oswald's reaction to the news of Kennedy's death? Why did he not act like the world's most successful assassin, which he was? This is the major sticking point for me. When the press asks him, "Are you aware you are being charged in the death of President Kennedy?" literally the guy's face just drops. You can see it in his face. He is shocked to hear it, which suggests he commited the murder under hypnotic suggestion IMO.

Also his comments about "wanting someone to come forward and defend me" ...WTF? He just killed the prez and he wants someone to come and defend him? To say this on camera, he must have thought there was a group powerful enough to step forward. Why would he think that?

No, I think his mind was scrambled. It is possible his trip to Russia and all that was CIA backgrounding, and that he was actually a patriotic young man who was brainwashed. IMO, his behavior after the shooting is not that of an assassin who's just succeeded in the greatest killing ever.

But anyway, when I look at Oswald, I see a lean mofo. Also, the cops who arrested him said he put up the fight of his life. If a bunch of pissed off Dallas cops said this guy was fighting like a bear, well you can believe it's true. Where does a guy learn to fight like that? Maybe he just learned it the army? Hmm.


reply posted on 13-4-2006 @ 03:24 PM by WestPoint23
Westy, what is your take on Oswald's reaction to the news of Kennedy's death? Why did he not act like the world's most successful assassin, which he was? This is the major sticking point for me. When the press asks him, "Are you aware you are being charged in the death of President Kennedy?" literally the guy's face just drops. You can see it in his face. He is shocked to hear it, which suggests he commited the murder under hypnotic suggestion IMO.


Well, there is a little know fact that is mostly forgotten due to the importance and active debate surrounding JFK’s assassination. However in my opinion its just as important. Its the murder of Officer J. D. Tippit of the Dallas Police Department by Lee Harvey Oswald.


At about 12:40 pm (CST), Oswald boarded a city bus by pounding on the door in the middle of a block, but when heavy traffic had slowed the bus to a halt he requested a bus transfer from the driver. He took a taxicab a few blocks beyond his rooming house at 1026 N. Beckley Ave. then walked back there to retrieve his revolver and beige jacket at about 1:00 pm and moments later left the house. He lingered briefly at a bus stop across the street from his rooming house, then began walking. His ultimate destination is unknown but by the time he was stopped he had walked almost a mile (1.6 km) and was only four blocks away from a 1:40 pm city bus which could have connected him with a Greyhound bus headed south for Mexico.

Officer J. D. Tippit had very likely heard the general description of the alleged shooter (based on the statement of witness Howard Brennan who had seen Oswald in the window of the Depository from across the street) which was broadcast over the police radio at 12:45 pm. Thirty minutes later Tippit encountered Oswald near the corner of Patton Avenue and 10th Street and pulled up to talk to him through his patrol car window. Tippit then got out of his car and Oswald fired at the police officer with his .38 calibre revolver. Four of the shots hit Tippit, killing him instantly in view of several witnesses. [28] Oswald reloaded his revolver as he walked away, throwing the empty shell casings into some bushes. At least a dozen people either witnessed the shooting or identified Oswald as fleeing the scene. A cab driver hiding behind his taxi heard Oswald mutter "poor dumb cop" or "poor damn cop" as he walked by. Oswald then broke into a run, still holding the pistol in his hand. Moments later, Oswald dropped his jacket in a parking lot. Officer Tippit's service revolver was found under his body, out of its holster.

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Now why would Oswald feel the need to kill this officer if he had been hypnotized when he shot JFK? Oswald killing Officer Tippit is proof to me that Oswald was a killer and that he was trying to flee the scene. I believe his responses to the questions were calculated because he had been thinking about a legal defense which is evident by his repeated requests for a legal defender.


reply posted on 13-4-2006 @ 04:23 PM by Vinci
Originally posted by WestPoint23

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Now why would Oswald feel the need to kill this officer if he had been hypnotized when he shot JFK? Oswald killing Officer Tippit is proof to me that Oswald was a killer and that he was trying to flee the scene. I believe his responses to the questions were calculated because he had been thinking about a legal defense which is evident by his repeated requests for a legal defender.

Because he didn't kill the officer! Isn't it so obvious? How can he rush from the depository, onto a bus, off a bus, into a taxi, get all his stuff together, walk around town and just happen to encounter a cop, all after murdering the president? This seems so friggin' impractical, illogical, and just idiotic to even consider that it makes me angry.


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 02:12 AM by RFBurns
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Oh thats a real one if I ever heard of!! I put more credibility to government's coverup that Oswald was the shooter!!!


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 03:14 AM by AllTiedTogether
reply to post by RFBurns



Well that's what we've all been trained to see and say. If you look at the video several times... I mean like about 30mins or so and stop it and really look at it frame by frame... you can then see that she may have at least known this was happening... Of course some still believe that there was no conspiracy at all.... Ya! We're all crazy on here....


reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 01:40 PM by AllTiedTogether
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I believe the "piece of brain" was a cover story....
She ditches the gun and climbs out of the car to cause a distraction... all in the video evidence...
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