JFK - Zapruder Film Stablized, page 1

Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander
It IS possible to use a flash suppressor to answer the earlier question, but I'm not sure 1) when they were invented and 2) how large they would have been back then (think silencer size).

A flash suppressor doesn't really suppress the flash at all, just directs the flame in many different directions so the flash doesn't affect the shooters vision in low light shooting. It is just as noticable as a gun without one.

Suppressors/Silencers are almost as old as the gun itself. While they do lessen the report and recoil of a firearm, and supress the flash to the point of not being visible, you still have a tell tale puff of smoke from the muzzle, and ejection port. Even on a silenced .22LR you get that brief puff of smoke that should be noticeable on just about any camera. A silencer on my .22LR's or my .45 1911 only cut the smoke puff down by about half. There's also no such thing as a true "smokeless" powder, all powder has some smoke. Not to metion a brass shell casing flying through the air on a sunny day would stick out like a sore thumb if the driver did indeed shoot him. Unless he used a revolver, or single shot pistol, but where's the smoke? So Zorander where's the smoke, where's the recoil, where's the casing? That's just say that the camera can't pick up the fast moving casing, what about the other 2 things? As close as Jackie was to JFK, if the driver had used anything 9mm or larger she'd have powder burns on the right side of her face, something witnesses would surely notice. Judging by the reaction of JFK's head I'd say it's pretty safe to say it's a 270-.308 rifle round. And that's from personal experience. Anything smaller than a 9mm or 38 handgun round wouldn't kick his head back as it did. If the driver shot him with a pistol chambered for a rifle round .270+ the recoil would be so bad you'd see it from a mile away, not to mention one hell of a flame from the muzzle.

As for the drivers odd driving I believe I have a simple explanation for that as well. To me, after seeing the videos many times, he was ovbiously slowing down to make it easier for the shooters ahead of the car to get a accurate shot, once they had their "kill shot" and the driver confirmed it visually there was no need to stick around so he sped off.

In another JFK thread someone said their physics professor stated that the object being shot travels against the direction of the bullet which is why they say the kill shot (head splattering) came from the rear and to the left. First of all, what kind of college do you go to where they have a physics professor as low grade as him? I'd be asking for a refund personally. Has he ever even shot a weapon? For the sake of the discussion, you should see what a .308/7.62 NATO out of a M-14 at 600 yards does to the human skull. First the bullet impacts the forehead causing a small diameter hole, as it leaves the the back of the skull the force of the round passing threw blows out the back of the skull stripping away scalp that ends up folding over the targets eyebrows the whole time the heads snapping back like they got hit with a baseball bat being swung by Babe Ruth. Remember this is at 600yds when the round has slowed down quite a bit. I've seen this first hand, and I know there's a few pictures floating around that show the after effects of a .308/7.62NATO shot ie. scalp over eyes are.

The object/head/majority of liquid matter, solid matter and tissue ALWAYS FOLLOW THE PATH of the bullet. If anyone would like I can do an example on video to prove this, and no, it won't be using anything that's alive or once was alive as an example. Let me know, I'll make and host it.

[edit on 11-4-2006 by WithoutEqual]