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Topic started on 10-4-2006 @ 03:10 PM by TempusDei
I found a site of interest, and thought that some of you here may be interested too. Here's the link:

hometown.aol.com...

The similarities with the Hawkstone cup are numerous, this green alabaster is very rare, and the comments about the contents are very curious. There are also links with this and Worcester Cathedral, England.


reply posted on 14-4-2006 @ 05:09 PM by Tamahu
Only the profane search for physical objects, instead of first seeing the intended symbolism.




The Holy Grail






Figuarum Aegyptiorum Secretarum, 18th century.



The Holy Grail, symbol of the feminine sexual organs, contains the Waters of life (Sexual Energy). Standing upon this water are the man and the woman, who use their staves (the Kundalini) to control the waters. The waters must be kept smooth and calm and absolutely pure, free from any defect or disturbance, for not a drop must be spilled.

From the tranquil and crystalline waters rises a column of stone, a symbol of the spinal column. The waters are the Foundation, which is Hebrew is Yesod, the Ninth Sephirah of the Kabbalah, and related directly to the sexual organs.

Upon the column are entwined the two serpents of the Caduceus, Ida and Pingala, known in Christianity as Adam and Eve.

Atop the column, supported by the work of the man and woman below, is the Innermost Spirit, our own Inner Divine Father and Mother, the Being. Unto the Innermost is given all glory and power, thus as the man and woman work to perfect themselves, the Innermost is given Initiations, Powers, titles, grades, etc. This is why the Innermost is crowned and carries the Magic Wand and the Caduceus.

Surrounding all of this are Elohim who rule over the planets, whose force and influence direct and guide the couple in their Alchemical Work. All of the Gods carry within the force of the Cosmic Christ, whose symbol is the Sun; that is why all the wands, staves and sexual organs are covered by the Sun.

Compare this painting with the widely known symbol of the Shiva linga.





This ancient symbol illustrates the divine creative power of man and woman in union, as symbolized in the profound mythology of Shiva.







I'm not saying that physical Holy relics such as the Holy Grail, Arc of the Covenant, etc. don't exist.

However, the wise first look toward the symbolism meant to be conveyed by the Ancients, no?

It looks like The_Mentor is on the right track.






[edit on 14-4-2006 by Tamahu]


reply posted on 14-4-2006 @ 05:44 PM by Tamahu
Tamahu, you are quite correct. But this is a tangible artifact that found me. The spiritual meaning of the grail has not been lost on me. But, the symbolism of the grail could itself have evolved from an historical object, just like the cross.



Okay.

But I would say that it's the other way around.

Physical things manifest from above, not vica versa.

Although, we could say that certain aspects of Initiation have to start at the bottom(physical plane) of the Tree of Life, as we work our way back up.

Nonetheless, that which we regain through Initiation, is always there; we just re-crystalize it within ourselves.


In other words: Things like the Cross and the Grail represent eternal principles, which of course, precede any physical object.


Truth is, we shall never know. And that's annoying



So many of the churches tell us.

However:


"I said, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you..." - Psalm 82


..."I and my Father are one.

Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"- John 10:30-34



"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. - Matthew 5:48"


The Wisdom of the Knowing Ones is right there in the scriptures.

But of course the fanatical Priests always have their excuses and shaky philosophies to down-play the Divinity that IS within Man.






[edit on 30-4-2006 by Tamahu]
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