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reply posted on 10-4-2006 @ 01:16 AM by AgentSmith
Originally posted by uknumpty
I would still like to see CCTV of them getting on to the tubes and bus.

The should be possible considering the thousands of CCTV cameras in London.


Here are some more pics, I tihnk some might be from their practise run beforehand though.





THis was a dummy run:









Here's one of them making the video that was broadcast after, I guess he thought he was 'just part of an exercise'



I can understand why some of you might be scared and still rather believe that the Government did it of course, I guess accepting the simple fact that there are people out there that have psychological problems and a chip on their shoulder is too much to bare and far to scary. But I can assure you there are..
Why the hell some people are so bent on pinning everything on the Government though is beyond me...

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reply posted on 10-4-2006 @ 05:38 AM by AgentSmith
No tactics are involved I can assure you, I simply get impatient and tired of people swanning around stating things as fact when it's incorrect and they frankly don't know what they are talking about.
If I had a pound for every time it happens I'd be very rich.
The problem is this irresponsible action doesn't serve to simply show the individual as being misinformed, it potentially leads a whole group of people to believe what is incorrect information.
Sorry if I sound a bit upset, but it gets frankly annoying. I feel obliged to comment when I see such an inaccurate statement being made otherwise you'll have countless people walking around believing something false. But the way the remark was made was pretty provocative in nature, but i guess that's OK?

As for images of them getting on the bus/trains, I'm sure there are countless images of the whole thing, but only a very small number are usually released. If anyone doesn't like it instead of complaining that it's being withheld why not get up and do something about it?
Write a letter, get your solicitor to write a letter if it's that much of a concern. If you don't ask you don't get, I always hear people say that stuff is being withheld but 90% of the time it's because they expect it to be handed to them on a platter instead of having to do anything for it.

As for the 'Government did it' comments, the whole thing dredges up memories of discussions which basically go down this route - maybe an unfair generalisation to make in this case but when it's all you ever hear you kind of start expecting it.

I also get sick of people implying that to believe any aspect of an official story means you automatically subscribe to the whole thing and are a flag waving gullible moron.

There are two types of sheep, the ones that follow the Government and the ones who tend to be completely anti-Government and follow mainstream conspiracy theories.

Then there are people in the middle who actually have an opinIon of their own
I.E. rather than repeat what Alex Jones/or pals has told me to think regarding the image for instance, I actually bothered to look into it myself as did a few others.

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reply posted on 10-4-2006 @ 06:33 AM by AgentSmith
If you follow the line of the building down you can see what people commonly perceive as being his body is actually the building behind, his arm bends in front of him at the elbow before it gets to the railing.
As I err... said. If you click on the link to the other ATS thread you can see all this, it's all been well covered already

EDIT:

Here's a copy of one of my posts in the other thread




1. The bar going through the man's head - well if you look the artifact carries on along into the other mans head, it looks like the lines you get when you play a video back, just a normal viedo artifact. If it's digital it may be due to the compression, I know there are a at least some members on the board that know a lot more about these things than me so maybe one of them could comment.

2) If he is holding his hands like the man in front of him then it makes sense. At first it looks like it is going infront of the man's coat, until you follow the line up and see it is actually the line of the building. Which the rail IS in front of.
As the picture quality is a bit grey and low res and his coat looks similar in colour to the building it creates this illusion.


Anyway I'm not sure how this thread degraded into a repetition of the 7/7 bomber picture discussion thread, oh wait a minute - yes I do.
Someone chimed in with an irrelevant and false comment.. I remember now..

Speaking as a member (this forum is not my responsiblility) perhaps we can get back onto the topic? Any discussion of the validity of the image perhaps could continue in the appropiate thread, though I'm not sure there is anything else to discuss?

The fact that people are willing to do this sort of thing off their own back without any help from an outside organisation is to be expected, but seriously worrying. All the information required is easily available on the Internet and in libraries to anyone without even having to go on a terrorist site.
No amount of monitoring can be reasonably expected to guard us against this kind of thing, the best solution is to try and understand why some people feel they have to resort to such measures and rather than try and scare or threaten them into complying, we have to do something about making people not want to do things like this because they don't have any issues.

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