At Least 8 Murdered In 4 Vehicles in Rural Canada

the puzzle is coming together now . read this article most interesting thus far . latest scoop on CBC .

www.cbc.ca...

V Kaminski

You asked about some presumed increase in Police activities prior to the Murders taking place.

640 Toronto AM indicated today, that during the evening prior to these murders, police where tailing two of the Gang Members, and preparing to intercpet a Drug Deal. They departed the scene because they noted the Two they had tailed, seemed to be settling in for a party or at least where staying overnight.

The Tail was canceled and they departed.

This could also explain the amazingly short time period it took to apprehend the accused.

I think there is much more to this, but the Global Reporter at least was on the ball, asking that question.

Ciao

10-4 Shane... Thanx for the update! Some folks are saying, "Someone just snapped." - Lavigne and other parasites of the parasites. I wonder what might cause that? How about paranoia partly enhanced by being trailed or bird-dogged by police? OK now here's the "funny" bit: Those police trailing the GTA'ers out to the Shedden area were Metros - they can't do that and remain within the law without OPP "ride-alongs" at a minimum. So we got Metros unescorted by OPP running an illegal OP out of their juridiction, OK? So they either "do" or "see/document/witness" stuff that they can't bring forward because they are not playing by the rules - so they split? Nope, doesn't work for me. The "plot" is still too thick by about 8 bodies. Whether by malfesance or neglect or incompetence the Metros and now the OPP are wrapped up in a conspiracy here - even if they aren't direct actors. I smell a "Blue Book" report on the way.

Absolutely not true. Don't get confused with what you see on television. Whether an office is municipal, provincial or federal, they all operate under the CC of Canada which is federal. The municipal officers from the city broke no rules by conducting a surveillance op beyond city borders. They don't require OPP ride alongs. In an ongoing investigation like this, you can bet all departments are sharing information. Once moving into OPP's turf an advisory call would be the most they would have had to do.

Originally posted by V Kaminski
10-4 Shane... Thanx for the update! Some folks are saying, "Someone just snapped." - Lavigne and other parasites of the parasites. I wonder what might cause that? How about paranoia partly enhanced by being trailed or bird-dogged by police? OK now here's the "funny" bit: Those police trailing the GTA'ers out to the Shedden area were Metros - they can't do that and remain within the law without OPP "ride-alongs" at a minimum. So we got Metros unescorted by OPP running an illegal OP out of their juridiction, OK? So they either "do" or "see/document/witness" stuff that they can't bring forward because they are not playing by the rules - so they split? Nope, doesn't work for me. The "plot" is still too thick by about 8 bodies. Whether by malfesance or neglect or incompetence the Metros and now the OPP are wrapped up in a conspiracy here - even if they aren't direct actors. I smell a "Blue Book" report on the way.

I live near Kennedy & 401. T-Dot'ers will be familiar with this area - all others try Google Earth, Toronto, Kennedy Road. Anyway there's a Pita store on the East Side of Kennedy at the corner of Progress Ave., I go by there every morning for my walk and to pick up a coffee in the liitle plaza on the South side of Progress.
Somedays I stop in and pick-up a breakfast pita at the Pita shop which many area residents call "The Vulture's Roost" - ostensibly because it is the area Tow Truck hangout being close to the Kennedy exit of the 401.
About 10 minutes ago I walked by there... OMG.
6 Metro cruisers, 1 OPP highway special Crown Vicky and 6 Tow Trucks (3 brown and 3 others with custom paint) all in the not-so-big parking lot of the Pita place: 9:45 EDT. No signs of activity - other than perhaps a friendly coffee?
Now I'm not especially "into" this subject matter (I'm a UFO/tech-hound) but can anybody assure me that this is SOP and a healthy part of society? I'm still wantin' a big 'ol brekky-pita so you can surmise I didn't go in today.
I got that funny feeling you get just before you get cross-checked from behind into the boards - and I ain't wearin' a cup or a helmet. So I passed on the experience.
Yeah, I know some cops and my sister even married cop (idiot), and yeah, I know some clubbers - still get an Xmas card from a Yank named "LB" that I gave a vice-grip to in '84 when a coil bracket snapped on his Shovelhead on the DVP, and yeah, I know a couple of Tow Truck drivers/repo-dudes.
If someone was really smart and wanted an "organization" to operate openly without suspicion in plain sight these cultural groups might yield "prospective" candidates to grow and exploit an unannouced "shadow-crew" to do those things-unpleasant like what we've been recently experiencing.
I'm not saying what I just witnessed was a "meet" but something is smelly enough about this whole rancid deal for me to drop this thread and get back chasin' UFO's - where I'm more likely to get the whole story and less likely to get disappeared.

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You are at best sadly uninformed, at worst a misinformant. I don't like being called a liar. However if your word is better than that of an RCMP I've known for 20 years then by all means "do whatever" and prove it to us here on this board; stand and deliver. You can't - Surveillance outside the GTA by Metro does require at a minimum an officer of over-sight of that jurisdiction present and written notification plus "event" warrants shall I go on? I can. How bad do need to be embarassed? Huh?
Do the research, Jec.
Something is way out-of-spec with this story - and may be that way forever.
Me, I'm gonna do something "safe" like chase UFO's.

Ahh...Bikers and their little wars......

I once rode with a few HA and although they were cool...you could "feel" the danger in the air.

I have met some Bandidos and with them I felt even more danger.

And HA and Bandidos DO NOT MIX TOGETHER AT ALL !! (like oil and water)

All in all....I found that riding with NO colors is the best way of staying alive.

If you wear colors....someone someday WILL take a "shot" at you.

Never called you a liar. And it's nice that you have RCMP friends. So do I. I've been a uniformed member of the OPP for three years.

But whatever think what ya want and chill out.

Originally posted by V Kaminski
You are at best sadly uninformed, at worst a misinformant. I don't like being called a liar. However if your word is better than that of an RCMP I've known for 20 years then by all means "do whatever" and prove it to us here on this board; stand and deliver. You can't - Surveillance outside the GTA by Metro does require at a minimum an officer of over-sight of that jurisdiction present and written notification plus "event" warrants shall I go on? I can. How bad do need to be embarassed? Huh?
Do the research, Jec.
Something is way out-of-spec with this story - and may be that way forever.
Me, I'm gonna do something "safe" like chase UFO's.

I really can't be expected to believe you are a cop - you wouldn't be here - you'd be "cop" and already have this in the bag data wise. What detachment who's your CO? You can't prove it or won't? Or maybe you are cop and are here for "purposes-other"? Either way I'm gone and thinking "less" of the people paid to protect the public.

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You're right I'm not a cop. You got me.

But seriously, why wouldn't a cop come here?

And if I was a cop, why would I give you YOU my commanding officer and detachment information? For what purpose? That's like me asking you for your home address and phone number. People post here right or wrong because of the anonymity.

But anyway back the point, I never called you a liar. I stated my opinion on an operating procedure and you took it a little heavy.

Anyway, I can see you've already taken a side on the issue and won't even entertain opinions outside of your own so I guess I'm done here. Later.

Originally posted by V Kaminski
I really can't be expected to believe you are a cop - you wouldn't be here - you'd be "cop" and already have this in the bag data wise. What detachment who's your CO? You can't prove it or won't? Or maybe you are cop and are here for "purposes-other"? Either way I'm gone and thinking "less" of the people paid to protect the public.

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Ok. I'll believe you. Now your not a cop. Yeah, you'd not give-up the detachment or CO because I can find indepedent verification for that in the public record, OK. I don't care who you are, just what you think. So you did or didn't lie to us? I'm interested in everyone's opinion, so spill yours. Whatever or not, thanx ATS Member!... you got my curoius juices flowin'... so I hit all my usual "news" sources and I came up with some more stuff.

Cops endangering lives?
CTV CFTO Noon News Reports the fuzz left even tho' they were sure there was a large amount of coc aine hydrochloride there? OK, so where's the dope gone?

A link between Cops and the Towing Biz
The London Free Press (sorry about the links being long but I'm new here and don't have the link-thing worked out yet - help?)
lfpress.ca...

A link between Tow Truckers and Bikers? And Why?
The Toronto Star
www.thestar.com.../Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1144793429768&call_pageid=968256289824&col=96834221 2737

And that the provincial Gov't is considering action?
From CNEWS
cnews.canoe.ca...
- beyond this link I was assured yesterday by a friend at the 'Ledge (or was it the day before - it's all a blurr) - that McGuinty will announce some sort of a Task Force - perhaps not, but their radar is up on this one - gauging public opinion?

Now apparently muscle "was on the way" from Chi-town to do a little wet-work - they aborted or were beaten to it? By whom? Now who knew all about everything so far? You guessed it and I didn't have to say a word.

There's some loose ends - sorry, more people gonna die.

3 other members of the club in question have fallen off radar too... wonder where they'll turn up? Someone's farm maybe? Drivin' a Tow Truck in a lake? Police shoot-out? Whatever - they go bye.
The Danes and Yanks of the club in question "got-a-little-'splainin-to-do" to each other - patch related. And the missing blow? Payment for the job out of Chicago? Missing?
And the interview of the farm resident before the Five-Oh swooped that's on The London Free Press site? They knew the fuzz were comin' and apparently did nothing other than chug brews and wait. He's either so cool under pressure or new jack-squat or had a different understanding about what had happened and what was about to happen - I suspect that at least some of the folks arrested had ZERO to do with the actual hits.
And the police behaviour? We won't be allowed to know precisely what happened - the closet must be chock-full-o-bones.
Whoever is runnin' this Op - needs to run a tighter ship or it will lose bouyancy and we know what "rats" do when ships sink.
Hey will someone "beyond-reproach" verify or disprove my work? Please? Tell me there is nothing "out-of-the-ordindary" with this situation?
I want to go on record for ATS folk and say "Help! - I need truth!"




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I don't know about police involvement, but the Bandidos were told that all operations in Canada were being shut down, immediately. The TO crew didn't obey and that's why the US crew was on their way North.

Disobeying a direct order from the Bandidos is dangerous to your health.

10-4 Duzey. I concur. What do you make of the abort out of Chicago and the missing blow? I'm not sure it's the fuzz either but they knew more than enough ahead of time to prevent murder? You got any other bits for the puzzle? Thanx.


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