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another terrorist group! see what PKK is

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posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by turkish_boy
before to discuss please wee read the history. only about 1000 armenian died during the world war I we didnt slaughter anyone if we hd wanted we could have done it easily while Ottoman Empire was ruling the world, and nobody could stop us.


So, only 1000 Armanians died. How pathetic can a human being be.
Just have a read below, stop denying it, this is as cruel as the holocaust during World War II. But hey, Iran either denies that happened.

Oh, and I'd recommend to read the comments when clicking on the link





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The Armenian Genocide was carried out by the "Young Turk" government of the Ottoman Empire in 1915-1916 (with subsidiaries to 1922-23). One and a half million Armenians were killed, out of a total of two and a half million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.
Armenians all over the world commemorate this great tragedy on April 24, because it was on that day in 1915 when 300 Armenian leaders, writers, thinkers and professionals in Constantinople (present day Istanbul) were rounded up, deported and killed. Also on that day in Constantinople, 5,000 of the poorest Armenians were butchered in the streets and in their homes.

The Armenian Genocide was directed by a Special Organization (Teshkilati Mahsusa) set up by the Committee of Union and Progress, which created special "butcher battalions," made up of violent criminals released from prison. Any common Turks who protected Armenians were killed.

The Armenian Genocide occurred in a systematic fashion, which proves that it was directed by the Young Turk government.

Finally, the remaining Armenians were called from their homes, told they would be relocated, and then marched off to concentration camps in the desert between Jerablus and Deir ez-Zor where they would starve and thirst to death in the burning sun.

On the march, often they would be denied food and water, and many were brutalized and killed by their "guards" or by "marauders." The authorities in Trebizond, on the Black Sea coast, did vary this routine: they loaded Armenians on barges and sank them out at sea.

The Turkish government today denies that there was an Armenian genocide and claims that Armenians were only removed from the eastern "war zone." The Armenian Genocide, however, occurred all over Anatolia [present-day Turkey], and not just in the so-called "war zone."


Despite Turkish denial, there is no doubt about the Armenian Genocide. For example, German ambassador Count von Wolff-Metternich, Turkey's ally in World War I, wrote his government in 1916 saying: "The Committee [of Union and Progress] demands the annihilation of the last remnants of the Armenians and the [Ottoman] government must bow to its demands."

German consuls stationed in Turkey, including Vice Consul Max Erwin von Scheubner-Richner of Erzerum [Erzurum] who was Adolf Hitler's chief political advisor in the 1920s, were eyewitnesses. Hitler said to his generals on the eve of sending his Death's Heads units into Poland, "Go, kill without mercy . . . who today remembers the annihilation of the Armenians."

Henry Morgenthau Sr., the neutral American ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, sent a cable to the U.S. State Department in 1915:

"Deportation of and excesses against peaceful Armenians is increasing and from harrowing reports of eye witnesses [sic] it appears that a campaign of race extermination is in progress under a pretext of reprisal against rebellion."
Morgenthau's successor as Ambassador to Turkey, Abram Elkus, cabled the U.S. State Department in 1916 that the Young Turks were continuing an ". . . unchecked policy of extermination through starvation, exhaustion, and brutality of treatment hardly surpassed even in Turkish history."

The Armenian genocide is similar to the Jewish holocaust in many respects. Both people adhere to an ancient religion. Both were religious minorities of their respective states. Both have a history of persecution. Both have new democracies. Both are surrounded by enemies. Both are talented and creative minorities who have been persecuted out of envy and obscurantism.


Source: Islam.com

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[edit on 16-4-2006 by Mdv2]




posted on Apr, 16 2006 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by turkish_boy
before to discuss please wee read the history. only about 1000 armenian died

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The turks murdered hundreds of thousands of armenians in a systematic campaign to cleanse certain areas of them.


Today why dont you attach Americans who are killing thousands of people in Iraq or in afganistan

American isn't undergoing a systematic campaign of rounding up women and children and putting bullets in their heads.


Look at the mirror before discuss this.

So because other people aren't all that great, therefore the turkish attempts at genocide 'never happened'?




(pray God they dont kill your son or daughter). because they will do it one day you cant get rid of it.

Pray to god that they don't try to exterminate your poeopel and then deny it to history.
The rest of the world is well aware of the fact that the turks, yes under the ottoman empire, attempted genocide against the armenians.



posted on Apr, 28 2006 @ 03:28 PM
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The Turks have never committed genoside on any nation. But as a Turkish citizen, I really condemn my own ancestors just because they didn't kill them all while they were on power and ruling the whole world. But my ancestors believed in Islam and our religion ordered them to be good and just to every kind of people, regardless of their religion, sex and race. If only they had killed them all!!! We, as their grand children, would not be facing these problems, because there wouldn't be anyone crying out this way. So guys, do your best to cause trouble for TÜRKİYE ! The Turkish youth is coming for the for the second round in order to finish the uncompleted mission of our ancestors.

[edit on 28-4-2006 by ottoman_boy]

[edit on 28-4-2006 by ottoman_boy]



posted on Apr, 28 2006 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by ottoman_boy
The Turks have never committed genoside on any nation.

Outside of the armenians and greeks of course.


But as a Turkish citizen, I really condemn my own ancestors just because they didn't kill them all while they were on power and ruling the whole world.

And by "whole world" you of course mean, turkey, north africa, syria, iraq, and the arabian desert.


But my ancestors believed in Islam

Excluding, of course, the original turks, who were central asian nomads who worshipped a panopoly of gods. And, also, excluding the various crypto-pagan groups within turkey, who only pretended to be muslim when sunni despots came to town.



and our religion ordered them to be good and just to every kind of people,

Which, of course, the ottomans' didn't bother to do.


If only they had killed them all!!! We, as their grand children, would not be facing these problems, because there wouldn't be anyone crying out this way.

Or perhaps, if only the arabs had been able to prevent a group of nomaid horsemen from comming to power in central asia, things would be better off in that region?


The Turkish youth is coming for the for the second round in order to finish the uncompleted mission of our ancestors.

Your threats of genocide are laughable, considering the state of turkey as a global military power.




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