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IAEA inspectors will visit Tehran...this Friday..

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posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 05:26 AM
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It is a positive move, in the positive direction...however, these are the initial steps. If we reflect on Iraq, the same occurance too place, but this did not stop US....attacking....hence the probabilities are still open for a war...however....this is a good opportunity for the world to know if there does exist technology or means to develop nuclear weapons....



TEHRAN (Reuters) - Inspectors from the U.N. nuclear watchdog will arrive in Iran on Friday to visit nuclear sites, including the Natanz uranium enrichment facility, Iran's ISNA news agency reported on Tuesday.

"The agency inspectors are traveling to Tehran this Friday. The inspectors will visit different parts of Iran's nuclear facilities including the Natanz facility," Aliasghar Soltaniyeh, Iran's ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency, told ISNA.

Soltaniyeh, who had said IAEA inspectors would visit Iran this week but had not given a date, said the inspections were part of Iran's commitment to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).


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Thoughts?

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Predictions of events?



M6D

posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 07:39 AM
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so theyre finally letting inspectors in?! about damn time, considering the fact they've made themselves look so damn suspiscious to the rest of the world, but at least its a start, then again, you could look at it in the way that iran has just held of inspectors for this long to hide any evidence of anythng,two sides to it as always!



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 07:41 AM
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History repeats itself.

They will go in and find nothing to worry about and this administration will get "intelligence" indicating otherwise.

There you go.



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by M6D
so theyre finally letting inspectors in?! about damn time, considering the fact they've made themselves look so damn suspiscious to the rest of the world, but at least its a start, then again, you could look at it in the way that iran has just held of inspectors for this long to hide any evidence of anythng,two sides to it as always!


Why do you say they are finally letting inspectors in? They were there not too long ago. They had said if the USA was going to refer them to the council they would kick them out. The IAEA never said they had anything but that it was possible they could in the future. They had 3000(?) centrifuges set up which in no way could make any type of weapons grade uranium in a fast amount of time. It would have taken them a while. There were security cameras and seals removed just recently when they made the inspectors leave.


Pie


M6D

posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 07:49 AM
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beause i havent kept my fingers in my pies and this is new to me, ive been *semi-out of it* recently.



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
History repeats itself.

They will go in and find nothing to worry about and this administration will get "intelligence" indicating otherwise.

There you go.


Thats one perspective, here is another:





posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by knowledge23
It is a positive move, in the positive direction...however, these are the initial steps. If we reflect on Iraq, the same occurance too place, but this did not stop US....attacking....[]/quote]
Wait, that was different. The UN inspectors were there to verify that Iraq had destroyed its WMD, which they were unable to do, they never sent in a report saying 'yes, they have been destroyed'. The IAEA isn't there to have Iran prove that its not got a Nuke Weapon program, its there as international oversight on the Nuke Tech program, so long as Iran has a 'thumbs up' from the IAEA, there is no basis for an Amero-Iranian War.



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
Thats one perspective, here is another:

Thats pretty silly, the IAEA isn't a pawn of Iran, and Blix never said that iraq's weapons were destroyed, so that made him pretty much not a tool of iraq.

The entire basis of this crisis is that Iran was given nuke tech under the NPT, and as part of that, must permit the IAEA, or some international body, to have full compliance with it. It doesn't even matter if Iran wouldn't have nukes for a 100 years, the entire issue was that they weren't cooperating under the agreement that that signed to get the tech in the first place.

As long as they are cooperating, they are in perfect compliance.



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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Oh wait, the world is saved, the same genius that let Pakistain, India, and N Korea obtain Nukes is on the job again.

My grandchildren are safe............




posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 04:07 PM
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I thought Iran said no random inspections. This is not random.

besides, it is in their best interest to at least put on a show of compliance.



posted on Apr, 6 2006 @ 06:19 AM
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[Quote]It is a positive move, in the positive direction...however, these are the initial steps. If we reflect on Iraq, the same occurance too place, but this did not stop US....attacking....[]/quote]
Wait, that was different. The UN inspectors were there to verify that Iraq had destroyed its WMD, which they were unable to do, they never sent in a report saying 'yes, they have been destroyed'. The IAEA isn't there to have Iran prove that its not got a Nuke Weapon program, its there as international oversight on the Nuke Tech program, so long as Iran has a 'thumbs up' from the IAEA, there is no basis for an Amero-Iranian War. [/Quote]

Nydan,

Just on your note, the UN inspectors did not find any WMD so where does the clause lie of them destroying WMD?

They never sent in a report saying that the weapons of WMD were destroyed, because they could not find any. I am sure we are all now aware of this false accusation used to justify the war on Iraq.

On January 9th 2003, Dr Hans Blix, Chairman of United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) addressed the UN Security Council; he clearly stated that till that date he had not found any weapons of Mass Destruction. He mentioned that if they would have found anything they would have submitted a report stating the findings.

I have also attached the thread where I have put more information on the initial which facts about how the war in Iraq started. The interesting point which I find, is that though weapons of mass destruction were not found and inspite of Dr Hans Blix, requesting the UN for more time to investigate claims, he was ordered 10 days to finalise his findings. Adding to the pain was US decision to attack Iraq without a second referendum to the UN Security Council. As you go through the links, you will understand my point of view. Hope this provides some good information.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

On the point of IAEA and the sanctions, your point appears to be consistent to the article attached. It is something which US was aware of and now the European nations who were being duped have had to accept. However these are statements, which, could be a scare tactic. UN inspectors will be able to comment more once they see more proof, however it is evident from the research that has been done, that they are upto something.

www.aijac.org.au...

Iran has been doing a dig in procuring means to create Nuclear Weapons,

I have attached an extract from some findings on the net,


“In 1992, for example, Iranians visited the Ulba Metallurgical Plant in Kazakhstan, a plant that produces reactor fuel and manufactures specialized metal components for the aerospace, electronics, and other defense industries. The plant also had a surplus inventory of more than 600 kilograms of highly enriched uranium (HEU), which the Iranians may have tried to buy.
Upon learning of the Iranian interest in Ulba, the U.S. government asked the Kazakh government to block any possible transactions with Iran. After deciding that physical security at Ulba was too weak to prevent diversion, the United States bought Ulba's HEU inventory in a secret, complex deal that was not revealed until it was completed in late 1994.
In more recent months, Iran's nuclear intentions have caused a continuing crisis du jour. The alarm bells went off in January when Russia signed a contract to complete the construction of a moribund nuclear power plant in Iran. The U.S. government repeatedly asked Russia to cancel the deal, arguing that Iran could use the reactor deal to bolster its nuclear infrastructure and as a cover to obtain sensitive nuclear technologies and equipment critical for producing separated plutonium or highly enriched uranium.
Adding to suspicions, Russia's Minister of Atomic Energy, Viktor N. Mikhailov, and Iran's Vice President and President of the AEOI, R. Amrollahi, signed a secret protocol declaring their commitment to negotiate additional contracts for research reactors, and to develop a uranium mine, train AEOI scientific personnel at Russian academic institutions, and build a gas centrifuge plant for enriching uranium.
The U.S. government did not learn about the centrifuge plant until March or April, at which point it stepped up its efforts to convince Russia to abandon the entire deal. On April 30, with Congress considering tough legislation that would sanction foreign companies that did business with Iran and cut off aid to Russia if it proceeded with the deal, President Bill Clinton announced his decision to institute a U.S. trade embargo on Iran.
The Russian-Iranian deal was a major issue at the May 10 U.S.-Russian summit in Moscow, at which Russia agreed that it would not supply a centrifuge plant. Yeltsin said then that the deal contained components with the "potential for creating weapons-grade fuel," so "we have decided to exclude those aspects from the contract." Nevertheless, most of the deal remained intact, which is a continuing sore point between the United States and Russia.”


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Abdul Qadeer Khan, know as the father of Pakistans Nuclear weapons programme has confessed to have involved in Nuclear proliferation to Iran.

Document attached for your reference,

www.dkosopedia.com...

On the topic of Military, I am sure there is more information out there, however, in this article there is no mention of Nuclear War Weapons,


Iran has a large, battle-hardened army, which is likely to remain loyal to the government. Russia has supplied air defense missiles; although it is not clear whether they would be effective against a massive U.S. airstrike. Iran also has a number of surface-to-surface missiles which have a range of 1300km. They can reach as far as Israel, and can certainly cause massive damage to oil processing facilities in the Persian Gulf. Iran has bought missile technology worldwide, especially from North Korea, but also from German and Russian middlemen. In December, the United States imposed sanctions on six Chinese, two Indian and one Austrian firm for selling missile or chemical weapons-related supplies to Iran.
On March 31, 2006, Iran announced that it had tested a new ballistic missile, the Fajr-3, which it claimed could evade radar and disperse multiple warheads. In the following days, they tested new, high-speed torpedoes.


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Recent update to the events happening in Iran, another test has been conducted,

Extract attached


“The missile was an "ultra-horizon" weapon that could be fired from all types of military vehicles, the television report said.
The weapon was fired as the climax of a series of tests and military exercises by Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard troops, it added. “


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China/Russia stance on Iran’s uranium enrichment programme


Tehran seeking help from Russia and China to avoid sanctions over nuclear programmes

Iranian government envoy in Beijing today expresses qualified support for a plan that would see Iranian uranium enriched on Russian territory. China backs the plan. On the eve of a meeting with the EU3 in London, the United States is pressuring India to back efforts to address concerns over Iran’s nuclear programme in the UN Security Council.



Beijing (AsiaNews /Agencies) – Iran is seeking Russian and Chinese support to stop efforts to address concerns over its nuclear programme in the UN Security Council. Ali Larijani, secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, arrived today in Beijing from Moscow, where he expressed qualified support for a plan to have Iranian uranium enriched on Russian territory. The Iranian embassy in Beijing confirmed Mr Larijani’s visit in Beijing, but in a laconic statement said: “He will meet with high-ranking officials to discuss mutual cooperation”.
Kong Quan, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, said that China opposed sanctions against Iran. “We think the Russian proposal is a good attempt to break this stalemate,” he noted.

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I guess the coming days will provide more information on the outcome…

Please dnt take this as a post as an answer to the points you raised, but more as some research done, for a discussion on this forum

Cheers

Knowledge23






















[edit on 6-4-2006 by knowledge23]



posted on Apr, 7 2006 @ 03:32 AM
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Hmmmmm.....I wonder if Iran has done the same as Iraq and shipped THEIR WMD's to Syria for future use! Everyone is so focused on Iraq/Iran that the "Syrian" issue is completely ignored. Its going to come down to that you know........
1)The U.S. takes out Iranian nuke research/production.
2)Iran blows smoke at world with more angry rhetoric (and a couple of missiles launched to Kuwait/UAE)Israel/Iraq-Baghdad----wherever US presence/influence is within range of their pathetic missiles.) Shows world latest technology of new "monkey-piloted stealth cruise missile with self-burrowing-in-sand capability".
3)US responds in kind with precise attacks against Iranian military targets.
4)Iran shows world innocent civilians "killed" by evil US.
5)Syria, under pressure from "enraged" Muslims, takes action mostly in compliance with mutual protection pact with Iran and launches attacks against US forces in Middle East with WMD's. (previously obtained by Saddam's "stash-job" during first Gulf War).
6)US nukes Syria military targets, suspected WMD sites, rest of world shuts up.
7)Iran and Syria detonate one of the nukes obtained from the Ukraine on US soil.....This scares the crap out of even the most "liberal" Bush-haters in the US as well as those who already knew it was coming.
8)Iran and Syria now completely glow in the dark from US response

9)Crooked greedy oil executives are sent to Iran/Syria in radiation suits to extract the oil, prices in US fall to 45cents/gallon



posted on Apr, 7 2006 @ 07:07 AM
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Creewolf,

Nice point raised,


The Syrians denied having banned weapons and just as quickly kicked the ball into the American court by proposing that the entire Middle East be declared a zone free of non-conventional weapons. They were also quick to deny reports that Syria let Saddam Hussein's regime hide weapons of mass destruction in their territory.(2) Washington, however, was not satisfied with Damascus's denials and the U.S. government made clear that it would be closely watching Syria's behavior.(3)

Only time will tell how much substance there is in these accusations and American threats to do something if they proved true. But Syria does have a stockpile of chemical and biological weapons along with the means to deliver them using its impressive arsenal of advanced surface-to-surface missiles which can reach most of Israel's populated areas

Please click here for article

Cant confirm the reliability of the source.......

Cheers

K23



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