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Topic started on 4-4-2006 @ 07:10 PM by truthseeka
This is a question to those of you who don't accept the official story on 9/11. Why?

I would like you to post your reasons for doubting the official story. Be honest, now; even if you doubt it because you hate the govt or because 9/11 was actually part of an alien plot to take over, post your reasons. I'll go ahead and set it off...

I doubt it for a number of reasons. The crappy investigation into 9/11, WTC 7 and all that pertains to it, the various "smoking guns," and the fact that criminal elements in our govt have carried out terror attacks in the past and have planned to carry out terror attacks in the past are among these reasons.

To go deeper, I think this is a part of the plan of the globalists to create a New World Order. Anyone reading this and laughing, just know I am laughing at you; there have been too many people calling for a NWO for it to be fake. Alas, I digress, as this is quite the rabbit hole...

Back on point, I also have a gut feeling that something stinks about 9/11. I think this has to do with what is currently going on in the US. Surveillance is getting out of control, the cops are getting militarized, the borders are gradually being erased, and civil liberties...what civil liberties?

In summary, I doubt the official story because of the crooked govt, the shoddy investigation into 9/11, the anomalies and smoking guns, and the severe crackdown on civil liberties in this country. Oh yeah, and my gut and my brain.


reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 10:18 PM by jonSUN
WTC #7!!!!!!!
WTC #7!!!!!!!
WTC #7!!!!!!!!

I believed what the goverment put out as a story when 9/11 happened. I also voted for Bush back in 2000. But it was prolly when the story of WTC 7 got some light. I remember watching building 7 come down that afternoon while i was watching live. I remember thinking holy sh*t, a 3rd building coming down. The news media was basically saying the same. Then after i heard Larry Siversteen say that it was brought down by controlled demolition, i first assumed it was only for insurance money. Then i thought about it & read up on some things, & realized if they were gonna make that building fall down as perfect as they did, it had to be planned. Then i found about how much planning they would have needed. Then I realized it wasnt a spur of the moment decision that Larry Silversteen made it out to be & that they made the decision & the building was brought down 20 minutes later. Reports say the building was evacuated at 9am due to fires. Well how did the fires start if no planes hit it. Also 9am is well b4 the 2 other WTC's came down. Even if the decision to bring down the building came an hour into the fires, then they would have about 7 hours to plan to destroy that building. Now at that time NYC needed as much available hands for help as it could get in the rescue effort. Why would any top official pull firefighters off rescue efforts to plan for a building demolition.? They wouldnt, so it was planned well b4 9/11.

EDIT to add something.

Also i wanna add that WTC #7 is they key to expose the rest of the story. Any jury of peers would be able to convict some on this thoery of WTC 7. Thats prolly why the govt has totally shut up on WTC 7 & wants people to forget. Also i dont think the govt has anywhere to go on it. They are totally screwed when it comes to WTC 7. Then you convict those involved of WTC 7. Its a gimme on convicting them for WTC 1 & 2 & also the Pentagon. Basically like if if theres a murder scene & 3 people were murdered at the same time. The person isnt gonna get convicted of 1 murder. Even if they confess to one & dispute the other 2. They are going down for all 3, since its obvious.

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reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 10:59 PM by Rightwingpatriot



reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 11:33 PM by ProudCanadian
Here are some good links on why I don't believe the official 911 story:

www.glennbeck.com...
This is way too coincidental to ignore.

www.serendipity.li...
Here's another good link.

www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...
The occultic number use is pretty revealing as well. What were the chances that 11 would show up so frequently?

Plus Bush does admit to being a cult member, Skull and Bones.


reply posted on 5-4-2006 @ 02:38 AM by alienanderson
Good Morning Truth Seeker; here are my main reasons:

Firstly, Operation Northwoods set the precedent for this type of operation on US soil

Three steel structured buildings collapsing in their own footprint from impact and fire for the first time in history - all on the same day

Destruction of crime scene at Ground Zero

Lack of thorough investigation

I do not trust the Bush Dictatorship (always remember, he wasn't actually elected president as the vote was rigged)

The more you look, the more fine detail of the ‘how, why and where’ is missing - for example some of the hijackers are still alive, there is no CCTV of them boarding the plane, there is no footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon and so on

If the official story is true where is the evidence that the named Saudi men did it? There is no images of them, no flight list manifestos with their name and no explanation on how they managed to take control of the planes and fly them, performing manoeuvres that would require military precision?

Took over 400 days before Bush announced someone to head the commission to investigate 911 – why the delay Mr President?

However, the kickers for me are WC7 being demolished on purpose (admitted by the building's owner) and NORAD's lack of response to the multiple 'hijackings'

I believe that 911 was the new 'Pearl Harbour' or 'Reichstag' event and history will come to show this

I also think that 'they' have gone too far this time - too many people who are not normally 'conspiracy minded' know there is something very very wrong with the official story

What we need is one brave mainstream newspaper to publish this story in its full and hound and push for answers until the masses are like WTF? What has happened here? Unfortunately, this will prove to be extremely difficult when the mass media is already under ‘their’ control

Hopefully some of he truth will come out – but only when it is too late


reply posted on 5-4-2006 @ 05:03 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
UUUmmmm....reasons why I don't believe the "Official" 9/11 story?

Well, we could be here all day while I write this out.

First and foremost, is "terrorism" the definition is too vague and broad ranged of a definition...it covers anything from Ali Ba Ba with a bomb in his backpack to a computer hacker, to someone like Me writing this post here.

Basically, the US Government and other Governments in collusion with them, can label anyone they deem trouble for any reason, as a "terrorist".

Privacy, is the last refuge of Revolution. If we can't have privacy, we can't have a revolution against a Tyrannical Government, like it was written in the US Constitution. We...the people...have the right to rise up and overthrow a Government who's become too powerful or tyrannical.

Their ultimate goal is stealing all your rights to privacy and to have you begging them to do it. Remember...right after 9/11...all the polls of "Would you give away some of your rights and freedoms to protect democracy?"

Most of the people polled said yes, and I would've said no.

Go and read the US Consitution if you don't believe Me. The National Archives would be a good place to start. Here's the link :

U.S. Constitution

Let's see...there's also SEAL Team 6...which is supposed to be non-existant...and is always...and I mean always, made up of Foreign National Americans. Iraqi-Americans, Saudi-Americans, Mexican-Americans...you name it. SEAL Team 6 is the Anti-Terrorism Unit. They practice taking out terrorists, and to do this...they actually have to stage "terrorist actions" and move against each other in "Combat Manuevers".

Don't get Me wrong...I love the SEAL's. One of the best Elite Units the US has, but that one SEAL Team and other Special Forces are anti-terrorist units. They use the practice of "Combat Manuevers" to hide the fact that they're blowing stuff up. Delta Force, Germany's GSG-9 (remember it's more than the US behind all this)and others are included in that.

Then there's the fact that they found the terrorists names so quickly after 9/11 happened. I mean come on, our Intelligence Agencies are good, but not good enough to have all the names of the terrorists names collected and sorted in one or two days.

Once Russia fell, I knew this was the next logical step. Why...? You might ask.

Because, for the Military Industrial Complex, to survive...this would be the manufacturers of Military vehicles, supplies, the Military Brass at the Pentagon, and any and all people connected to the military or supplying, or making money off them...they have to have an adversary to fight. This is called the "Straw Adversary Concept" You can go here to see the definition :

Straw Man - Straw Adversary

or even here :

Info Wars - Straw Adversary

The Government has to have a big bad guy to wave in our faces...to scare you into submission...a scared public is easier to control than a rational thinking public, since Russia went Bankrupt from our CIA initiating us outspending them in the Cold War. That was the CIA's master plan, to outspend Russia, and make them fall flat on their faces.

This is also the way for them to ensure that we "need" to have the Military...that we have a "need" for the Military Budget. If we don't have a "War" to fight...what reason would we need to allot millions of Tax Payer's dollars. This is the way Washington works folks. If there's no
"need for something"...then the Budget for it gets cut.

It's like a Global game of Chess. The Illuminati, Freemasons, Masons, Bilderbergers, WTO...you name it...they control all of this.

Then, there's the actual investigation...what bunk that was. When they investigate things on Capitol Hill, is when they use that as a "Smoke Screen" to cover up the truth...just like the Warren Commision did for JFK's assassination.

Go here to read about the usual military uses, and see "Tactics" :

Smoke Screens

It's like using "Smoke and Mirrors" like a magician might to cover the clever secrets of his/her magic tricks.

Go here to read the Wikipedia definition :

Smoke and Mirrors

Let us also not forget, guided bombs and guided planes have been around since WWII. Something that's been possible for more than 50 years now. Guiding a plane at a building or other structure is not a new thought,...think Kamikaze Attacks during WWII :

Go here to read about the possiblity of Radio Guided Planes :

Radio Guided Planes - 9/11 Strike

There's also the fact, that any and all Government Officials use "Double Speak"...the term for saying something that you're not really saying.

I'll thank Wikipedia for the definition again here :

Double Speak

Thank you Wikipdeia

Let us also not forget patriotism...yes I said patriotism. All the US Government has to do, is wave an American Flag, and the vast majority of ignorant populace follows like Lemmings off a cliff without thinking. Because...if you're not a "Patriot" then you must be wrong.

You can go here for the definition of patriotism, and just remember...there's a difference between "Patriotism" and "Blind Stupidity" :

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotism[/url]

This would be the definition to Me of "Blind Stupidity" since I couldn't find it on Wikipedia :

Individual stupidity vs collective stupidity

Social psychology has shown that perfectly sensible people can, collectively, act quite foolishly because of blind obedience, mimetism or herding. In Psychology, this is known as deindividuation in crowds, and can lead to behaviours usually not displayed outside the specific social situation. The behaviours occur because individuals will conform to perceived social norms in order to 'fit in'.

This is just a little tease, as to why I don't believe the "Official" story of 9/11.

Lions...and Tigers...and "Terrorists" Oh My...










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