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Why was my thread deleted?
Why was my thread deleted? I didn't swear or anything.
You edited your's, so I'll edit mine.....
Originally posted by Ride the Storm
But that's the point the above posters have been trying to make. Christian people throughout history (Well... at least the last 700 years or so) have been doing all they can to convert other cultures to their religion. Ever heard of a little war called the crusades? That was started by Christians. They couldn't handle the fact that Muslims controlled Jerusalem. And what about the obsession with the conversion of the Native American people to Christianity that started as soon as C. Colombus discovered america and lasted until the late 1800s?
Originally posted by Ride the Storm
I mean, come on. Christians are the largest demographic in the U.S. of A. today. Hell, there's even an "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance! I don't see an "under Ganesh" anywhere.
Originally posted by TONE23
Fortunately this is probably a minority of actual christians ...but unfortunately they seem to have the biggest mouths
Can anyone name ANY other religion that goes out to actively convert people to their religion.. besides Christianity(in all its sects)?
My point is that these groups have ALOT of resources and can easily tip the medias viewpoint so that the "Christians" are the ones being " persecuted".
When in reality it is these groups that do more of the attacking then anyone IMHO.
We love to hear about failures, but not successes. Just watch the news; if we enjoyed good news more than bad, news agencies would report it to increase their ratings. Instead, we like to see others suffering or screwing up.
quote: Can anyone name ANY other religion that goes out to actively convert people to their religion.. besides Christianity(in all its sects)?
Islam, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Gnostics, New Agers, Atheists, Evolutionists, Gaia worshippers
Whew, I can disagree with this point, though! There has been a semi-silent war over our culture for the past 50 years. Slowly but surely, America's culture has been ripped away from what it had been, morality changing, principles shifting, aspirations adjusting. In the 80s, Christians started to speak out against this movement vocally. However, conmen saw opportunity in this, and we had the huge televangelist scandal that gave all Christians a black eye, broken nose and knocked out most of our teeth. It has only been recently that Christian leaders are stepping forward again and changing this silent culture war into an overt one. The big difference between today and the 80s, though, is that these leaders are practicing what they're preaching. There are, of course, a few exceptions, and we all slip at times, but overall, there is a solid Christian base (solid meaning non-hypocritical) out there fighting this fight. As a result, the media and the cultural opposition have had to use a different tact in discrediting the movement: victimization. Look at this thread, and even your statement. Christians aren't the victims, we are, and they're being mean. We're just trying to make everyone happy, and these mean Christians keep wanting to hurt people's feelings by saying things like there's right and wrong and stuff. It's like the two kids sitting in the back seat of the car. One keeps moving into the other's space, poking them quietly, and being a pain in the butt...Then the other reacts, and the first feigns shock at this sudden unwarranted outburst.
So really if theres a war.. its the christians who started it by feeeling threatened in the first place am i wrong?
Yes and no. It would depend on how you define war. The 9-11 commission came out with a statement that those radical Islamic terrorists were at war with us, but we weren't at war with them. So the question is, did the war start when the terrorists started blowing up Americans and American buildings/equipment, or did it start when we finally declared war back?
I believe the use of eminent domain in order to close down tax-exempt churches to replace them with condos as both theft and an attempt not to share the culture, but to remove an element of the culture in order to replace it. Again, do I stand idly by?
Another issue would be gay marriage. This one is interesting, in that Judaism established the marriage covenant, but the state integrated that religious concept into itself. Now, we Christians and Jews are being told we have to give the state control over our religious covenant. Our religious covenant has rules, but the state doesn't like all those rules, so they want us to change our religion to accommodate the current culture