posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 04:12 PM
First and foremost I will address the issue of Daniel Pipes. This is a conspiracy theory and perhaps it is the stance that Nygdan wanted me to take
in this debate; however he did not state that and left it open to interpretation, so I interpreted it another way because he did not name Mr. Pipes.
Daniel Pipes has met with Flemming Rose, arts editor for Jyllands-Posten on one occasion. Mr. Rose sent him an email on September 29, 2004 asking for
an in person interview. Mr. Pipes granted the request and he went to his office I Philadelphia on October 25th where he spent a half hour asking him
questions for a journalistic piece in which Mr. Rose did and published on Mr. Pipes and his views on radical Islam. After that there was no further
contact between the two of them. This is a conspiracy theory created by Christopher Bollyn , a fringe anti-Semitic writer who published his theory on
February 3rd stating that “Rose traveled to Philadelphia in October 2004 to visit Daniel Pipes….Rose then penned a positive article about
Pipes.” You get the idea. Daniel Pipes has been deemed a neo-con because of his stance on radical Islam and well you put two and two together and
conspiracy theorists run wild. And that’s all I have to say about that, unless you would like to further address the issue with some valid sources
that state the two have actually conspired to do this together.
Anyhow, back to your argument. The Danish embassies were attacked in three (3) Muslim nations because the Danish Muslim organizations made the whole
ordeal into more than what it was and when the media got a hold of it they began reprinting the cartoons. Well needless to say, word spread
throughout the Middle East and embassies begin burning and lives are being threatened and taken. The radical Muslims used and manipulated this issue
to incite anger in all Muslims and to provoke the riots, not the other way around. It has probably since become quite a recruiting tool for the
radicals as well.
You stated that I may feel that the Muslims need a freedom of speech. Well, apparently they are exercising this freedom of speech all over the globe
by rioting and standing in the streets picketing with signs that are giving death threats. I’d call that freedom of speech wouldn’t you? All
religions are subjected to satire and the Danish media is protected by freedom of speech. If the Muslim religion teaches that they should not have
freedom of speech then they are certainly living in sin. As I pointed out earlier, if they are going to be integrated into Western society then they
will not be left out of the satire. They get the good, the bad, and the ugly and they can’t pick and choose what suits them. I get offended all of
the time by some of the idiotic cartoons printed, but what am I going to do about it? They are expressing themselves and their feelings towards that
particular issue through art and they have the freedom to do that.
As far as the “clash of civilizations” being a planned and constructed conflict organized to put the Christian West against the Islamic World,
which I suppose leads back to Mr. Pipes. I’ve addressed that issue. It is a conspiracy theory that these two gentlemen are in cahoots in order to
further this supposed “clash of civilizations”. The “Clash of Civilizations” is only a theory in international relations in which the
dominating source of conflict in this day and time will be cultural anyhow. The rest of it is only conjecture put together by conspiracy theorists
that disagree with the author’s views. It is a controversial theory made popular by Samuel P. Huntington and it does relate to this issue because
the Danish Muslim community has integrated into another culture and they expect that culture to bend for them. But, should they have to? If they
choose to integrate they are going to have to get a thicker skin and put up with what the rest of us have to put up with because being Muslim isn’t
going to exclude them from that.
Again, the motivation behind Jyllands-Posten publishing the cartoons was to get a debate going on self-censorship and why people feel intimidated by
the more extreme Muslims. What led to this motivation was the three illustrators denying to illustrate a book out of fear of retalliation from