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Do heaven and Hell exsist...yet?

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posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 09:41 PM
My thoughts of Heaven and Hell not yet exsisting..

Well deep thought on perfection of God and creation requiring duality makes me wonder about Heaven and Hell.

In thought of Jesus coming back and rising all the dead for final judgement makes me think Heaven and Hell do not yet exsist and people are simply at rest or filled so to speak.

I pondered the thought of 2nd coming/antichrist etc for quite some time and my thought was this. If he has to raise all the dead for final judgement they have yet to be judged. Now the purpose of the beast would be an ungodly fear to drive a person's soul to what they really want ie what path right. Thus creating duality again to create this to realms of Heaven and Hell.

Do you agree? If so would you just rather die and be the end of it or would you rather strive for one or another assuming I was right of course.

posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 12:00 AM
nsawantsmedead, you are more correct than I find with most people on some points.

I'll keep this short as possible just hitting the main points if you want complete run down of events see link; or u2u me.

  • Heaven exists now.
  • Hell however as in a place that is oppositely equal to heaven as a literal dwelling place is not so... Hell is the grave.
  • There is two deaths you find in the Bible. The first is the physical death, and the second death is the eternal death (or second death).
  • When you die you are in a sleep state your in the grave or hell; nothingness.
  • Jesus saved the faithful from the second death; Whom he takes with him at his second coming. (Only a 144k will not see the first death.)
  • lake of fire, Brimstone/hell fire exist on the day of judgment when satan and all that follow him are destroyed. (note: judgment is only for the wicked., the righteous are already saved.)

    Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

  • Check this out: After all the wicked are destroyed the righteous get to walk out on their ashes.

    Malachi 4:1,3 "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts."

  • No eternal suffering. Amazing Love.
  • There will be a new heaven and new earth after judgment.

    Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

    Matthew 5:5, "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."

Again this is the short version for more detail visit the link or u2u me with questions or reply to the post.

posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 05:26 AM
A friend of mine had an interesting theory on heaven and hell. He says that heaven and hell are both to be found on Earth in the here and now.

According to him, when we are having the greatest time of our life, the time when everything is so good and wonderful, we are experiencing heaven. When we are going through a rough period with so many bad things seem to be happening all at once, we are experiencing hell.

Of course my friend is not a very religious person, but his theory is rather interesting, wouldn't you say?


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