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posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 05:07 PM
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Please folks, don't get tricked into thinking that religion is to blame for all the ills of the world. Religion has, like our media and politicians simply been infiltrated by the Masonic cabal.

The one saving grace of any religion is that it reminds us that we are immortal beings with souls and that we have the power to be saved. The only thing we have to do is be good.

And from Masonry what legacy do we have? Hoodwinked, blackmail, Craftness... Religion has the power to save souls while Masonry damns them.

The fact that I'm having to point this out on a Conspiracy Site shows the damage the Masonic infiltration is doing to the quality of conspiracy debate here: ie, there is very little. I'm having to point out the most basic Conspiracy facts which I'm happy to do, but it means that the whole process of understanding the world will take a bit longer. If that's what people are here for.. The fact that the Masons here still pretend there is this Religion vs Masonry paradigm and that religion is the evil, may have worked 200 years ago in the French revolution but surely we're better informed now...

Anyway, speaking of which...

The Masonic humanists, from the time of the bloody Masonic French revolution to the Genocide of Hitler have amassed 100 million deaths in total.

No religion has ever even come close.

Some background on Hitler:


After creating International Socialism (communism) a temporary antithesis was created called National Socialism (nazism). The process to create National Socialism was to turn again to the Masonic Lodges and other esoteric secret Societies to get it done. Therefore, the secret esoteric Gnostic and satanic societies along with the Illuminati helped create "the Thule Gesellshaft" (in English the Thule Society) . Adolf Hitler was some type of member of this occult Thule Society, along with many other men who later began leading Nazi leaders such as Rudolf Hess. The Thule Society used the Masonic/Hindu symbol the Swastika, which the Nazi party then also used as its symbol. In other words the grandmother of the Nazi Party was the Masonic Lodges in Germany. The Vril was another secret occult group that many of the Nazi leadership belonged to. Hitler also was a member of the Theosophical Society, which has strong Satanic and Masonic ties. Both Bailey and Hitler studied from Tibetians, Hindus, occultists, and black magicians. They also both studied the Gnostics, and every major Pagan/Occult religious system. A example of how valued the Swastika was for Freemasons before Hitler ruined its image, is a quote from Joseph Fort Newton, a Baptist Minister and high ranking Mason, "The second of these volumes also contains an essay. . . by Thomas Carr, with a list of Lodges, and a study of their history, customs, and emblems- -especially the Swastika .
www.whale.to/b/communism.html


Excellent info sites:

www.whale.to/b/communism.html
www.whale.to/b/sp/rothschild.html


Mod Edit: No Quote/Plagiarism – Please Review This Link.
It is a spiritual battle which is being fought... How much weaker we will be if they can convince us we have no spirit!

[edit on 3-4-2006 by Edelweiss Pirate]

[edit on 4-4-2006 by AgentSmith]




posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 07:14 PM
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Hi Edelweiss,

1. Could you explain more about how the Freemasons are responsible for 100 million deaths? Is there anything to support this?

2. Additionally, how do you explain Hitler's persecution and murder of over 80,000 Freemasons during the Holocaust, if he was supposedly in league with them? Doesn't seem to make sense...

3. I'm also interested in how Freemasonry damns souls. Could you elaborate? Is it because they worship Satan? Do you have anything to back this up, or is it all just musings/theories?

Cheers, Roark.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 11:51 PM
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i think this original post is completely made up with no factual information supporting it whatsoever.

can you please speak of some Recent factual information instead of the same old french revoluton stuff any drone or clone website contains?

i think you're looking at modern masonry completely wrong. this isn't the dark ages. have you ever thought that masonry is an indication to know which people are good, not selfish, and which you can trust?




posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 02:44 AM
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They're facts and you're on this site trying to protect your craft.

You guys are actually more reactionary and even more dismissive of conspiracy facts than the Media...

This is a conspiracy site not a lodge meeting.



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 02:57 AM
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EP, most masons on this site are here to discuss their craft, not to protect it.

Roark has asked 3 basic questions, which you are not responding too.

This kind of rant, is what gives conspiracy theorists a bad name. You need to support your arguments and discuss them with opponents, not just scream disinformation to all opposition.

This is a conspiracy discussion forum, not a ranting platform.


JAK

posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 03:14 AM
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You are correct Edelweiss Pirate this is a conspiracy site, but more than that ATS is a site where members try to unravel the twisted mess that random internet claims can lead to and discover the truth behind allegations.

Merely asserting 'They're the facts' (as above) does not validate your argument, in fact many might see such an abrupt answer as achieving just the opposite.

As you said, this is not a lodge meeting but just as you are free to come here and post your theories so others are free to question your claims.

Jak



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 04:22 AM
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EP

It seems you prefer your conspiracy sites to discuss just one side of any position, with no counter viewpoint allowed.

That's one way to always win the argument!



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate
This is a conspiracy site not a lodge meeting.

Members,

Assist me to open the thread.

Brother moderator, what is the first care of every conspiracy theorist?

Mod: To see that Ignorance is properly Denied

Direct that duty to be done...



[edit on 4-4-2006 by Trinityman]



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 04:35 AM
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EP,
Here’s my reasoning feel free to dismiss it as you like.

Your premise is that Freemasonry is part of or a front for the NWO. I agree with you that the NWO is a real phenomenon. But claiming that today's freemasons is a front for it is absurd. A quick search for freemasonry reveals that it is indeed a philanthropic organization today. (official masonry anyways.)

Now the only people that freemasonry could be used as a front for is you EP and many other anti-masons. By insisting that the freemasons are part of the NWO’s plan you are not discussing the true evil, the NWO itself. Only diversions.

As mention previously, freemasonry is a red herring.


[edit on 4/4/06 by ConspiracyNut23]



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 04:47 AM
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Thanks for pointing this out CN. I've tried to make this (obvious) point before, But I suffer from the 'he would say that though wouldn't he' syndrome.

It's not unreasonable IMHO to hypothesize that some elements of the 'NWO' are deliberately targeting freemasonry and feeding the myth in order to divert attention away from the real culprits. Maybe the committed anti-masons are actually the real threat?

[Mod Edit: Removed unnecessary full quote of preceding post. - Jak]

[edit on 4/4/06 by JAK]



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by Roark
2. Additionally, how do you explain Hitler's persecution and murder of over 80,000 Freemasons during the Holocaust, if he was supposedly in league with them? Doesn't seem to make sense...


Hitler persecuted Freemasons :fuz: where did you learn this, I don't suppose you have a link do you? I studied the second world war and the events leading up to it pretty extensively, I don't recall this being in there? Still my memory is pretty awful XD


Cug

posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by whyfish

Hitler persecuted Freemasons :fuz: where did you learn this, I don't suppose you have a link do you?


If you go here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

You will find a scan of a document that committed a follower of Aleister Crowley to a concentration camp for the reason:

"By your continuous contact with the high-grade Freemason Crowley you have supported his subversive activities and attempted by spreading his doctrine to recruit followers for him in Germany."

Crowley wasn't a Freemason but it shows the point I think.



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by whyfish
Hitler persecuted Freemasons :fuz: where did you learn this, I don't suppose you have a link do you? I studied the second world war and the events leading up to it pretty extensively, I don't recall this being in there? Still my memory is pretty awful XD


Not much online I'm afraid but have a look at en.wikipedia.org...

Also there is some interesting information about Holocaust Memorial Day here

[edit on 4-4-2006 by Trinityman]



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 07:47 AM
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Also, the Center For Holocaust and Genocide Studies has a page about the Nazis' Anti-Masonic Exhibit in Serbia here, where you can view the original Nazi anti-Masonic propaganda posters.



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 04:42 PM
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Conspiracy Nut,

You will find that Freemasonry is the one name the media and movies still fear...

No film has ever mentioned the Freemasons.

They are taboo.

They are the centre of the web...

Hmmm I'm afraid I can't PROVE personal experience....

So I guess it can't be real right?

WRONG...
Come out of the dark people and see the truth.

Good whitewash job by the way boys, you're working as a good team, as usual.

I wish I had something nice to say, sincerely, but there isn't anything nice about the psychic corruption and murder of millions of people... sorry, I love olive branches so much though.... pity, for truth how we suffer!

[edit on 4-4-2006 by Edelweiss Pirate]



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 06:14 PM
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I don't see it as a "team effort" as such. There are plenty of non-Masons in this thread who have identified your post as pure drivel.

You can't cry victim just because you post unsubstantiated bigotry.


Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate

You will find that Freemasonry is the one name the media and movies still fear...

No film has ever mentioned the Freemasons.
[edit on 4-4-2006 by Edelweiss Pirate]


Some movies featuring Freemasonry:

National Treasure
From Hell
Sherlock Holmes - Murder by Decree
The Man Who Would Be King
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
The Affair of the Diamond Necklace
Are You a Mason? (1915)
Are You a Mason? (1934)
Conspiracy Theory
Elmer Gantry
The End of Days
Gattopardo, Il "The Leopard"
Lost Horizon
Once a Mason
Slacker

Avoid "National Treasure". It's poo.

"From Hell" paints Freemasonry in a negative light, but it's an awesome movie. You'd like it.



posted on Apr, 4 2006 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate
Please folks, don't get tricked into thinking that religion is to blame for all the ills of the world. Religion has, like our media and politicians simply been infiltrated by the Masonic cabal.


Religion has had more to do with violence throughout human history than any thing else put together.


Originally posted by Edelweiss PirateThe one saving grace of any religion is that it reminds us that we are immortal beings with souls and that we have the power to be saved. The only thing we have to do is be good.


Reminds those of us that choose to believe. I for one dont. And btw i still try to be good.



Originally posted by Edelweiss PirateThe fact that I'm having to point this out on a Conspiracy Site shows the damage the Masonic infiltration is doing to the quality of conspiracy debate here: ie, there is very little.


Probably because you actually have to be able to debate, you dont seem to get this.




Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate The Masonic humanists, from the time of the bloody Masonic French revolution to the Genocide of Hitler have amassed 100 million deaths in total.

No religion has ever even come close.


You've got to be kidding! The crusades, the inquisitions, the witch hunts, various other religious backed war efforts throughout history.

btw i am not anti religion, i just have no place for it in my life, my choice. i dont begrudge others there beliefs as long as they are not rammed down my throat.
As an aside the current war against terrorism wouldnt have any religious significance would it!

Cheers
M4S



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate
Freemasonry is the one name the media and movies still fear...
No film has ever mentioned the Freemasons.


Roark’s list demonstrates that it insn't.



They are the centre of the web...


I think your confusing cause and effect.



Hmmm I'm afraid I can't PROVE personal experience.


You don’t need to for me, many just have their personal experience to go on, more so in the alien forum. I for one enjoy hearing about your encounters with an illuminated branch of masonry.
keep it up.



Good whitewash job by the way boys, you're working as a good team, as usual.


I hope we are not all part of this whitewash, I for one would hate to be spreading disinformation. Although…. I do have a copy of Catcher in the Rye in my library…. sleeper agent perhaps?


Originally posted by Roark
Avoid "National Treasure". It's poo.


They’re making poo #2. Thanks for the list BTW.



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
They’re making poo #2.


[Luke Skywalker]

NOOOOOOO!! It's not possible!!! It can't be true!!


[/Luke Skywalker]



posted on Apr, 5 2006 @ 02:05 AM
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Another movie: Titanic
A certain Masonic song appears. Only Masons will know. (I hope!)





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