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posted on Apr, 2 2006 @ 11:49 PM
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Is a war with Mexico a probability in the next few years? Illegal immigration and internal political strife are bringing the two neighbors to a boiling point. 11 to 12 million illegals in the USA who retain strong ties in Mexico and retain Mexican citizenship as well in many cases US citizen could lead to a war.
 



www.worldnetdaily.com


WASHINGTON – Ronald Reagan's defense secretary, Caspar Weinberger, credited with engineering the demise of the Soviet Union, once predicted – because of illegal immigration and social unrest south of the border – the U.S. would be at war with Mexico by 2003.

As the U.S. becomes increasingly concerned about just those issues – and one more, the growing power and violence of the drug cartels operating in and around the border – some U.S. intelligence and military analysts are dusting off Weinberger's "Operation Aztec" battle plan for review.

Weinberger's scenario outlined a rapid three-pronged military invasion designed to control domestic Mexican unrest and stem the influx of millions of immigrants.




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The US government has Under the Reagan Administration dusted off plans of a military invasion of Mexico known as "Operation Aztec". In Casper Weinbergers' book "The Next War" part three in the table of contents it shows "Mexico" March, 7, 2003" could there be a slight miscalculation as to the time table?

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[edit on 3-4-2006 by Thomas Crowne]

[edit on 3-4-2006 by Riwka]




posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 12:52 AM
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i have no problem with legal immigration. hell, not one of us in this country (except maybe the few full blooded american indians left today) can say that he or she is not the descendent of an immigrant.

but what we saw last week (and continue to see) in the form of mass protests by illegal aliens amounts to an insurrection IMHO. how many other countries do you know where a massive population of illegal aliens are allowed to roam free unchecked and conduct mass demonstrations when someone finally starts to realize they are becoming a problem and tries to enact legislation to deal with them? to say absolutely nothing of the very dangerous criminal element within their mists in the form of venezualen gangs who will kill not only you to get their way, but your whole family and anybody who ever knew you.....and we have no way to properly monitor them because they are here illegally.

i agree that this is going to eventually boil over into a war. maybe not necessarily an outright declared war with mexico, but their will be bloodshed, and it could very well destabilize this country to the point of no return. something needs to be done now before its too freaking late.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 01:41 AM
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Worldnetdayly... well. But I think that if the protests begin to be violent, with all those gangs of nazi/latino/asian/black people, with all people armed with automatic rifles, it will be a bloodshed until what? Until the martial law? Until the extermination of all illegals? Until what?


apc

posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 08:22 AM
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Can I hunt down every seditious rat waving a Mexican flag and treat them as a Spaniard would treat someone waving a British flag during wartime?

Or do I have to wait for them to come and try to force their way into my home before I can unload a round in their face? Oh, wait, they already tried that.

Maybe I'll just let the police handle them and do my best to stay out of it. But... that's what I've been doing, and it hasn't worked yet.

I am not the only one that feels this way. Be confident that if things do indeed come to war, the border will likely have the least amount of blood on it.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 08:39 AM
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Not a chance.

The immigration issue is being manipulated by international corporations to secure "free trade" with Central and South America. Mexico is negotiating better NAFTA terms in return for supporting a free trade deal the whole hemisphere - and offering up the "Hispanic constituency."

This article looks like more propaganda, designed to frighten the po' white folks.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 03:16 PM
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Casper Weinburger's book "The Next War" has 54 pages explaining the history and plans to War with Mexico. When you begin to contemplate the amount of illegals just from Mexico who are member of gangs you are not just seeing a influx of hard working immigrants but rather a beginning of a small army capable of insurrection and destruction of the American way of life.


www.rense.com...

[edit on 3-4-2006 by aliencowboy]



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 03:17 PM
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World Nut Daily is a crap newsource that puts out poorly researched 'articles' that amount to little more than pandering the the masses and outright propaganda.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 03:57 PM
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Here is another link to a possible war with Mexico>





www.tysknews.com...



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 04:12 PM
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I wish it would escalate to war! Let's put these scumbags right back where they belong! Don't let them in on penelty of death! If these "poor downtrodden people" want a better life they should start on their own filthy Mexican block. The reason they're coming here is because it's easier to push our grovelling pandering politicians then it is straighten out their own corrupt leaders. So what will we do? Give it all away!



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 05:25 PM
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How is it that lately almost every country we have a problem with just happens to be a major source of oil? We've already 'done' Iraq. There's the Afghan pipeline project. Iran is on the brink. Venezuela thinks we're ready to invade. Now Mexico... Watch out Canada... you could be next.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 06:25 PM
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I dont doubt the fact that oil has something to do with the propoganda, and big money greedy pigs around the world starving for control. A fact is a fact, this world is starting to get overpopulated and the fire just gets fueled more and more. California and other states around mexico just take the brunt of immigration. Hell, we are all decendants of some immigrant, but like i said the US is getting bombarded by to many people at once. We cannot support everyone for god sake and thats the fact.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 06:27 PM
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I agree Sofi,

While people are heating up and the anti-migrant resentment keeps growing, the power that rules our country is the one making possible to keep the illegals coming while killing the middle class America in their way.

Poor, needy and illegals is what the power wants, so they can work for peanuts.

A fight with Mexico?

Why?

The only fight wanted is enraged Americans against Americans.

To keep the attention from what the elected politicians are doing in favor of interest groups.

Do not let yourselves be blind by the propaganda.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 06:27 PM
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I never thought I'd vote "No:bias" again. Until this:

Is a war with Mexico a probability in the next few years? Illegal immigration and internal political strife are bringing the two neighbors to a boiling point. 11 to 12 million illegals in the USA who retain strong ties in Mexico and retain Mexican citizenship as well in many cases US citizen could lead to a war.

1st sentence: probability? how about possibility? how about fantasy?
2nd sentence: boiling point? that would be an charaterization/opinion. Not a fact.
3rd sentence: could lead to a war? Geez. Give me a break.

Save this intro for the "how not to write an intro" thread.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 06:40 PM
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As a 13th generation american, family is originally from Scotland, I welcome this war. The Mexican government can do whatever they want, but redneck U.S. will destroy them and the officers of the multinationals. I don't see how the CEO of an oil company can stop a bullet with a lawyer holding a bunch of paper! Long live the republic, to hell with the greedy CEO's and the illegals!!!



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 06:52 PM
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Haven't you people had enough of war ?!?!?! Is your appetite for destruction and death insatiable? You even kill your own when they step outside your rules. Is there ANY chance for a compassionate response or is it just easier to wipe out anyone and anything you don't approve of? Good luck in your quest to homogenize the world to your liking - the last one standing wins, right? Those who abuse power loose it - the American Empire is destined to fall because of your greedy, intollerant and abusive foreign policy. WAKE UP ! YOUR TRIBALISM NO LONGER WORKS !


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[edit on 3-4-2006 by Riwka]



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 09:00 PM
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I wouldn't put much faith in people putting up a fight, since corporate America backs illegal immigration and US citizens want cheap products produced by slave labor.







[edit on 3-4-2006 by Regenmacher]



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 09:32 PM
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With every immigrant population there is going to be problems. Just ask the Indians, as far as they are concerned every last one of us should be carrying green cards.

Most of the Latin American immigrants I know are here to work and make a better life for themselves and their families. That is the EXACT same reason your ancestors immigrated to these shores. It is not wrong to look for a better life for you and your own, hell, its almost an obligation as a human being.

The lead man in my department immigrated here from El Salvador. He busted his chops and has never missed a days work. He has a beautiful wife and four beautiful children. He owns his own home and three other homes that are his rental properties. He returns to El Salvadore for two weeks each year to visit his family and sends them money each month to help them also have a better life. He is one hell of a man in my opinion and deserves all the rights and privelages of this country.

I will not condemn someone for doing what they have to do to help the people they love. I salute them for it.

Now, will we go to war with Mexico? I seriously doubt it. The powers that be want the cheap labor so they can continue to pocket all the profit. Money is at stake here and those who have it will do what they have to do to keep it. And that includes keeping the border pourous.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 09:45 PM
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Respectfully, if we end up at war with Mexico it will NOT be because we started it.
It will be a civil war and it will be started by the people who live in the states that believe that those states should no longer be a part of the US.

So, we may not want it, it may not suit our purposes, but it could happen.
The last war dealing with secession was not started by the US. It was started partly in response to economics and trade practices.
I don't really see the SW states doing what the southern states did, but I do sense a lot of unrest amongst the Latino population in that part of the country.



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 09:55 PM
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GrndLkNatv
I am looking forward to this war.....

...family is originally from Scotland...


Yeah... I can't wait for the war against immigrants too...



[edit on 4/3/2006 by Gools]



posted on Apr, 3 2006 @ 10:07 PM
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I am not at all for war. Enough blood has been shed. I dont think there is chance we will go to war with mexico. I have no idea why my fellow americans are raging for war. If it comes to it I will pick up my mini 14 and do my job, but it seems as though some people want this to happen.

What are you people mad at ? Just the mexicans ? Anyone ever drive down to china town in NYC ? You go there and you will be the only white person around. Its the same in many areas, its called diversity and its called america, this is a melting pot, if you wana get pissed at someone then go join the military, youll get to be at the front lines when this "war that will never happen" happens.

WTF people ?

All this hostility for what ? People trying to feed there families ? Just dosnt make any sense to me.

Should get mad at the people in charge. They are the ones responsible not the people trying for a better life.



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