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Masonic code: Freemason's cipher AKA Pigpen cipher




Topic started on 2-4-2006 @ 08:38 AM by PowerToThePeople


en.wikipedia.org...

www.simonsingh.net...

ccelian.com...


FBI WEBSITE
www.fbi.gov...



Download freemason code / FONTS
www.odr.org/anonymous/fam-code.htm

fonts.baydragons.com/fonts.asp?link=2&offset=170


intersting code in poetry
www.light-of-truth.com/Royal_Arch_Jewel/peek.htm

lodge1759.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk...


themasonictrowel.com...

If you closely compare this cipher with that of the York Rite or Blue Lodge, you will see the
subtle differences but know that they are different. By knowing this cipher you will not be able to
decode a 'real' masonic cipher. This example has been presented for "entertainment purposes" and to
educate you about Masonic Ciphers, while keeping within the bounds of our obligations.




Pigpen_cipher:
motivate.maths.org...

REALLY BASIC
library.thinkquest.org...


[edited to include cut and pasted information within the 'ex' tags to indicate that it is from an external source. Please try to use the 'ex' tags in the future -nygdan]

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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 12:49 PM by Nygdan


Is there something you are trying to tell us? Please provide more than just a series of links, please discuss the information provided therein.


The information is indeed interesting.



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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 03:10 PM by PowerToThePeople


Concerning this thread it is not my aims to tell people what to think about it but to just bring the facts to the table for their own observance. However I would encourage anything someone’s else knows about mason code to bring it to the table just as one of the masons stated real mason code is unbreakable, so if anyone cold pull info on that or bring some example of mason code with those subtle differences or whatever that would be great.



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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 03:25 PM by BlueTileSpook



Originally posted by PowerToThePeople
just as one of the masons stated real mason code is unbreakable


your link to wikipedia


The use of symbols is no impediment to cryptanalysis however, and cryptanalysis is identical to that of other simple substitution schemes.


Are you sure that it is unbreakable?

JDub



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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 09:49 PM by PowerToThePeople



Originally posted by BlueTileSpook
JDub


I guess with older code ciphers it worked well enough against the human eye back in the day, but with the sophistication of computers that can spot patterns and break codes in seconds it makes me wonder how much history has been decoded by cryptologists and not yet reviled to us or simply just tucked away???

Of course now these days I’m sure the masons have implemented a new system of code , cryptology or maybe using Steganography instead ?

en.wikipedia.org...



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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 10:03 PM by PowerToThePeople


I think it’s important to note that messages will not always be visible to the human eye and could be hidden in ANYTHING including art work etc as I learned form reading g “codes and ciphers by peter way”



en.wikipedia.org...
The advantage of steganography over cryptography alone is that messages do not attract attention to themselves, to messengers, or to recipients. An unhidden coded message, no matter how unbreakable it is, will arouse suspicion and may in itself be incriminating and in some countries encryption is illegal.





druid.caughq.org...

Steganography vs. Cryptography

*
Steganography’s goal is to keep the presence of a message secret, or hide the fact that communication is taking place
*
Cryptography’s goal is to obscure a message or communication so that it cannot be understood
*
Steganography and Cryptography make great partners. It is common practice to use cryptography with steganography



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www.strangehorizons.com...

With these new techniques, a hidden message is indistinguishable from white noise. Even if the message is suspected, there is no proof of its existence. To actually prove there was a message, and not just randomness, the code needs to be cracked or the random number seed guessed. This feature of modern steganography is called "plausible deniability."


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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 10:18 PM by suzy ryan


This is the sort of thread that should live on the home page.

Those just new to snooping around the world of conspiracies, could do with an understanding of the principles of steganography.

All of a sudden those 'wobbly' signatures and 'oddly ticked' boxes, on 'everyday' paperwork etc., start to connect the dots between conspirators.

There also has to be great discussion on how to avoid developing complete paranoia.

Edit to add; regular 'social and club' meetings, are a handy way to pass on the latest codes, when old ones have been tapped.

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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 08:25 AM by BlueTileSpook


I know that when I was in the military in the early 90's, we were taught in crypto school that one of the systems that the Navy was using at that time was the toughest to break ever in history. They borrowed computer time on the Cray and it was estimated that it would have take 40 years of computer time to break the code into a readable message.

I also heard rumors at the same time that NSA had tried its hand at various ciphers from throughout history, but that they were not "officially" transcribed, so nothing was published about it. I wasn't at the NSA for that, but had a couple of mates that were over the course of their careers.

JDub



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reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 12:20 AM by ARIST0CRAT


thanks for the font links.

woop woop!

Mod Note: One Line Post – Please Review This Link.

At what point did you think adding 'woop woop' was going to help you escape from a one line warning? - Don't answer..

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