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Originally posted by alienanderson
I agree with you ElTiante, this must definately be protested before it gets underway
AdamJ - do you think this is evidence of a 'hidden hand'?
What I mean is, is it being forced onto us by persons unseen - NWO, Illuminati etc
Originally posted by Knights
Secondly, I would like to comment on I.D cards, I really don't like the thought of them but then again can the Government actually track you on a daily basis? Fair enough if you leave the country but no actual day to day use of the card will be needed.. or unless i'm unaware of something?? We won't have to swipe it or officially show it when completing official documents.
Originally posted by Knights
Scary.. yet also feasable.
Perhaps from the moment people are born predictions from your DNA will be used to create a profile (as mentioned above ^^). Perhaps a step further specific jobs will be designated to an individual from genes or early characteristics (many people thinking of Futurama now lol), certain decisions may be made, courses to take, levels of education all already decided, gradually taking away our freedom.
In this country [U.S.], through their American and European agents, they helped finance Rockefeller's Standard Oil, Carnegie Steel, and Harriman's Railroad. Werner Sombart, in his book The Jews and Modern Capitalism, said that from 1820 on, it was the "age of the Rothschild" and concluded that there was "only one power in Europe, and that is Rothschild." In 1913, the family fortune was estimated to be over two billion dollars.
American and British Intelligence have documented evidence that the House of Rothschild, and other International Bankers, have financed both sides of every war, since the American Revolution. Financier Haym Saloman, who supported the patriots during the American Revolution then later made loans to James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and James Monroe, was a Rothschild agent. As explained earlier, during the Napoleonic Wars, one branch of the family funded Napoleon, while another financed Great Britain, Germany, and other nations. Their boldest maneuver came prior to the Civil War.
Originally posted by toasted
what if people refuse
are they gonna jail everyone ?
nobody wants to be tagged like cattle
If a failing leader such as Blair, sliding further down the polls month after month, can enforce this visibily useless, flawed and unwanted measure in a country which in actuality has (so far) more democratic public freedoms than the US.
It WILL be compulsory to carry them no matter what the UK Government claim now.
Violent crime in Britain has QUADRIPLED since Blair took over. He has softened or is about to soften laws on drink, drug, gambling, gay sex in toilets, prostitution. You name a vice, Blair has made it easier With his league tables and taking away responsibilities from parents and school discipline from teachers, he has helped turned Britain into the moral cesspit of the western world with record teenage pregnancies and STD and loutishness, drugs and anti-social behaviour. New York is now a far safer place than London.
"Gay sex in toilets"
Originally posted by Clipper
David Cameron has now said he supports the cards. The UK citizens have no control over the matter whoever wins the next election.
Originally posted by Kung Foo Fighter
I find it amazing that more Americans are not closely watching this UK ID card business.
Given the way Blair so willingly suckles Bush, it truly would not surprise me to discover that ultimately the UK ID card system is a test-bed for a US scheme. If a failing leader such as Blair, sliding further down the polls month after month, can enforce this visibily useless, flawed and unwanted measure in a country which in actuality has (so far) more democratic public freedoms than the US, it will 'prove' to Bush that such a scheme could be implemented in the US, quite possibly in a less problematic manner. And of course Bush would then have the advantage of being able to use Britain as an example of why there is nothing to be afraid of with a biometric ID card system and its accompanying centralised database..
[edit on 2-4-2006 by Kung Foo Fighter]
Originally posted by shaunybaby
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I think if there's any hope at all, it's to stop the cards before they become compulsory. Although, I'm sure it was decided 2010 will be the year. I wouldn't be surprised if these ID cards did come in to effect, that there would be a mass migration of possibly thousands to other countries. Our roads, schools, hospitals, poor people, homeless people etc could do with this money.
Is it possible at the next election if labour don't win...can the other parties once in power stop the ID card. I know the Lib Dems are against it. Then again that might be a little too late.
There's too many ignorant and willing sheeple that don't mind about these ID cards for them to be stopped. I think the figures are 1/5 are saying 'no2id', and 4/5 supposedly 'yes'. I doubt they're actually saying 'yes' it's a good idea, it's more they just aren't bothered and don't care.