Originally posted by toasted
what if people refuse
are they gonna jail everyone ?
nobody wants to be tagged like cattle
Well from what i have read they will be issueing massive fines first, thousands of pounds per one. If you don't pay then it's jail. You are right
they can't jail everyone at once but maybe they would do a staggered jailing thing. Jail most now and then jail others later.
Also once they jail you they will take your DNA and details anyway, that's a well thought out way of covering the angles they have there isn't
Furthermore you won't be abel to access half the things in your life without it. Imagine you refuse and they don't come knocking right away. You
can't use a bank account, access a library, get a new passport or driving license, leave the country (the obvious thing to do is to need your card at
an airport) and so many other things. Basically your daily life will be destroyed without one, unless you don't mind living off the land in the New
Forest without anything that costs money then maybe you don't need one lol.
In the end as already mentioned you will need to swipe the card or be near an access point that detects the cards presence so being tracked everywhere
is completely possible. If they want to find you they type in your number and find everything you last accessed.
So here some pro ID card people would say "Why are you worried they would need to find you? What have you got to hide?"
Nothing is the answer, i have nothing to hide. What worries me is the fact that if i am falsly accused of a crime they will know where to get me right
away, and if my DNA is there innocently then i could be in alot of trouble. I gave a story earlier about a guy who went through that.
More importantly it's the fact that these cards won't do anything and will cost me money. I mean i am happy to pay the government taxes so that i
could go to school, have nice roads, hospitals and so on. What i do not liek to pay for is a card that invades my privacy and does nothing. I should
not be forced to pay for that. Let's go through the points.
1. They say it will stop terrorism but do terrorists need these? No they come on holiday here and bingo they are in and commit any act they want, so
there cards fall down.
2. They say it will stop ID theft. Sorry no. If you know wherethe holes are in the system you can get a passport so why not a new card? Let's say i
use a fake fingerprint, name, address and so on. I can now get a card with a whole new ID. This is one of many ways you could get one and be another
person. The DNA is a pointless argument for confirming your ID. IN daily life you won't come across a scanner that scans your DNA quickly enough for
it to ve viable. So what's the point of that even being considered to be on there?
3. It will stop money laundering. Sorry wrong again. Banks will still allow access to accounts over the phone. It would be very simple to steal
someones details and use the account they already have to transfer money around the world.
4. They say it will stop illegal immigration. Again no sorry, the illegal imigrants will still come here. They will drop out of site and evrything
will become organised as usual. Some fo the legal ones will have cards which they will use to get things for the illegal ones. Employers will still
employ them for cheap and pay them in cash. This cash will be given to the legal ones with cards as payment, and so it goes on and on.
It's all rubbish, there is no reason for ID cards and there is certainly no reason for a DNA database, one which they will sell to the highest
We live in a damn democracy apparently and yet this is the most un-democractic thing i think this country has ever seen.
As others have said as welll, if you have a DNA database then DNA discrimination is the next step. Can anyone say Gattaca? If you havn't seen the
film Gattaca get it, a startling view of the future. If Orwell was right now then Gattaca i think is the next future.
[edit on 1-4-2006 by ImaginaryReality1984]