posted by Black_Fox: “I've been noticing the military has changed its stance on who they allow in. Raising the age, and changing their
stance on visible tattoos. Leads me to wonder just how thin the military is stretched and how low recruitment is. [Edited by Don W]
Good question. Obviously, the military would prefer junior college grads, mostly white but some of color, clean shaved, no tattoos and “speaka
d’Englesh.” but Herr Rumsfeld said you go to war with what you have, not with what you want.
With a war with Iran looming and the war in Iraq still ongoing, where are they going to find the people to fight these wars. [Edited by Don W]
Blackwater. Halliburton. General Dynamics. Other favored NGOs. Privatized soldiers, $10,000 a month. And etc. Actually, B/F, IMO we have neither the
manpower nor the financial resources to add one more war to our repertoire. It takes a long time to train a man (or woman) to be a modern soldier. In
my wildest alcohol induced nightmare I cannot imagine the United States launching a land war against Iran. It is (or was) a West Point maxim the US
should never engage in a land war in Asia. We have violated that maxim 4 times post 1945. Korea (Stalemated). Vietnam (Lost). Iraq 1 (Won). Iraq 2
(Losing). We’re batting a poor .250.
When I turned 18, I received a letter to sign up for the draft . . if I didn’t I was subject to 1 year in federal prison or 1 million dollar
fine. So I signed up. Do you think they will reinstate the draft? Even if a draft is used, it won’t have the desired effect. Seeing that most
people are waking up to the fact these wars are not justified. Would you go if drafted? [Edited by Don W]
Will this administration reinstate the draft? No, you are safe until 2009. Although the public does not see any dangers in a mercinary army - as I
do. I am worried who are the soldiers loyal to? The paymaster? - we are learning volunteer armies have very distinct limits when there is a lot of
dying to do. And I am not casting aspersions on anyone. I joined the Air Force in 1952 so I could sleep on clean sheets. That’s my vision of
“going to war.”
Should you go if you are drafted? For sure it is not easy to leave your home or your country. The US has a long memory. Didn’t they prosecute a man
who had been in Canada 20 years? It would help if you had money. And a saleable skill. In today’s economy you could not possibly leave the country
unless you had as a bare minimum, $5,000. I spent 5 years in the Air Force. It is not at all bad. The worlds’ best tech schools good quarters and
decent food. Fair pay. I’d recommend it to any young man. And I’m an anti war type person. But you have to be realistic, too.
posted by deltaboy: “You talking about Selective Service, kind of a backup if the U.S. feels the need to bring in manpower in a hurry. Its
been in existence for over 50 years since Roosevelt. All U.S. citizens are required to register. You don't sign on, you don't get benefits like
financial aid like loans or grants for school. [Edited by Don W]
I signed up. It did not hurt me. I was an enthusiastic young (poor) guy wanting to see the world. The GI bill helped me through school.
posted by Kruel: “Yeah I too had to sign up for the draft. I also pay my taxes, which the IRS says are "voluntary"
Where does that urban legend that taxes are voluntary come from? It is no crime not to pay taxes, but it is a crime not to file a tax return. If you
refuse to pay your taxes, ultimately the IRS will seize your property, sell it, and apply the proceeds to your tax bill. But if you do not lie and
file all required papers, you will not go to jail.
If it came to a draft, I'd probably get court-marshaled, unless I felt the war was justified. I will not kill innocent people.
And who defines and determines just who is an innocent person? Would you have declined to fly or crew the Enola Gay in 1945? The US does not order
anyone to commit a Mei Lai incident. Those things do happen in war. But not often.
I do worry about the draft starting up again as the prez is now pushing for Iran. Hell, let's just call ourselves the Romans, go around
taking over the known world and be done with it. [Edited by Don W]
Booty was one of the incentives of the Roman soldier. Maybe we need to add looting to the soldier’s job description?
[edit on 3/30/2006 by donwhite]