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reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 01:45 AM by jritzmann
Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
Originally posted by jritzmann
last night, a small transparent white arch appearing between me and my wife as I was in my chair and she on the couch. It was there for a second and faded away. No idea what that was.


Did your wife see it?


No, but she saw some spinning tendrils in the sunroom last thursday. Said they looked like a white translucent drape going across the table.

Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
Not to go all "Forbidden Planet" on you, but is it possible that part of your mind is responsible for some or all of the phenomena? Or is it 50/50? I don't mean responsible as in intent or implied guilt, but in a more abstract sense. (No one is blaming you for anything.)

I think it would be interesting to record your living room all of the time, not just when you are not there, and see if these phenomena occur to a non-intelligent observer such as a CCD web camera.

[edit on 4-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]


Hell anything is possible, although many things are seen when I'm not around, by Jill. I've come home home to her being a little on edge due to seeing someone rushing into the bathroom wall/door. She can never make out who or what it is.

As far as physical manifestation of mental projections, I dont know about any of that. I know that when I say to you, "the more attention you pay the more it pays to you", I know what that implies, that "well he's seeing because he expects to."

I dont know how else to say other than it just doesnt work like that. You can be primed for seeing things and hearing bumps in the night, yes, no question. I've definitely experienced that, and got myself to the point where I recognize my own paranoia over this whole thing. Yup, you can spook yourself out.

Lets say it like this, you dont see anything out of the ordinary when youre primed, it's when youre not. It's the time where you forget about it, and go on with whatever youre doing for hours with no thought at all to it...then BOOM, there something is. It's subtle, and it's on the edge of perception...but you can see it. My research partner saw it, Jill's seen it many times, I mean it sure seems outside of me. Especially when I'm not present. And it's not always something so "in your face".

It's all a progression that I recognize. When I'm able to get more into it, and you see the events I lay out, you'll see that progression, and that progression ultimately ended with a challenge provided in a way I could not possibly deny.


reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 03:46 AM by Ectoterrestrial
Originally posted by jritzmann
As far as physical manifestation of mental projections, I dont know about any of that. I know that when I say to you, "the more attention you pay the more it pays to you", I know what that implies, that "well he's seeing because he expects to."


I was more or less thinking about subconscious excitation.

The reason I am bringing this up is because I have recently, personally, learned about the role of repressed emotions that we cannot feel. I have some chronic pain problems that are greatly exacerbated by emotional stress, even when I cannot 'feel' the emotional stress (other than in pain.)

I'm wondering if speaking about these phenomena isn't exciting your subconscious in some way, even if you can't directly feel it.

Beyond that mind-body connection, I could only speculate.

Incidentally, I looked into the logarithm of the retinal image

You can see the general concept behind the mapping in the following animation:

Polar Exponential Grid (Round is your vision from one eye, square is the layout of neurons in your brain)

Now, the question is, if there is a white square in your vision, spinning, and growing, what would that look like in your brain.

The answer:

It would look like a ripple-like flood sweeping across* across your visual cortex. What do I mean by that?

Imagine your visual cortex is a flat piece of black paper at the back of your head. Imagine a kid has drawn waves on the ocean on this piece of paper, the way a kid would draw them. Now, the kid took a white crayon and colored in the ocean all white(The sky is left black). Now if this kid di this, what you would see in your vision would be a square at a particular orientation.

Now imagine the kid's crayon is magic, and he can move the waves (animation) across your brain's piece of paper. This causes the square in your vision to rotate.

Finally, imagine that the kid animates the water getting higher and higher, like in a flood. This process causes the square at the center of your vision to grow larger and larger. When the flood waters in the visual cortexes paper hit the top of the piece of paper, all of your vision is filled with the square.

To visualize, this is what the square looks like in your visual cortex at any given time

Figure 1: A 'four-pronged wave' induced in your visual cortex



Figure 2: The above wave appears as a square in your vision



[edit on 4-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

[edit on 4-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]


reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 10:39 AM by jritzmann
Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
Originally posted by jritzmann
As far as physical manifestation of mental projections, I dont know about any of that. I know that when I say to you, "the more attention you pay the more it pays to you", I know what that implies, that "well he's seeing because he expects to."


I was more or less thinking about subconscious excitation.

The reason I am bringing this up is because I have recently, personally, learned about the role of repressed emotions that we cannot feel. I have some chronic pain problems that are greatly exacerbated by emotional stress, even when I cannot 'feel' the emotional stress (other than in pain.)

I'm wondering if speaking about these phenomena isn't exciting your subconscious in some way, even if you can't directly feel it.

Beyond that mind-body connection, I could only speculate.

Incidentally, I looked into the logarithm of the retinal image

You can see the general concept behind the mapping in the following animation:

Polar Exponential Grid (Round is your vision from one eye, square is the layout of neurons in your brain)

Now, the question is, if there is a white square in your vision, spinning, and growing, what would that look like in your brain.

The answer:

It would look like a ripple-like flood sweeping across* across your visual cortex. What do I mean by that?

Imagine your visual cortex is a flat piece of black paper at the back of your head. Imagine a kid has drawn waves on the ocean on this piece of paper, the way a kid would draw them. Now, the kid took a white crayon and colored in the ocean all white(The sky is left black). Now if this kid di this, what you would see in your vision would be a square at a particular orientation.

Now imagine the kid's crayon is magic, and he can move the waves (animation) across your brain's piece of paper. This causes the square in your vision to rotate.

Finally, imagine that the kid animates the water getting higher and higher, like in a flood. This process causes the square at the center of your vision to grow larger and larger. When the flood waters in the visual cortexes paper hit the top of the piece of paper, all of your vision is filled with the square.

To visualize, this is what the square looks like in your visual cortex at any given time

Figure 1: A 'four-pronged wave' induced in your visual cortex



Figure 2: The above wave appears as a square in your vision



[edit on 4-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

[edit on 4-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]


Damn interesting. I'd have to do alot more reading about it to totally understand it. Below this a link to a quick animation showing the square and how I saw it.
The Square

This is exactly how it moved and looked, but it accelerates towards you too fast...to do it exact might be too much for people to download...would be very long. But you get ths idea.

So the question is, was that a function of me, in response to "them" or "them" inducing that.
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