Thailand : A terror risk for bush ?

Between the beginning and mid-September, a score of people originating in the Middle East pénetré in Thailand from Laos, using forged passports of Bangladesh. 5 of them were stopped.

Potential terrorists of Jemaah Islamiah contacted the Kampuchean ones in order to buy RPG, SAM-7 and M 79. It seems that the services thailandais are always in the search of 6 SAM-7 which would have entered to Thailand.

It is very easy to buy weapons in Kampuchea, a RPG costs approximately 150 $.

Some very heavy firepower, but considering that the area in question is the heart of the Heroin industry worldwide, there are a number of warlords who would use such firepower domestically.

Not sure that this really has much to do with terrorism against the US. Especially considering that the US makes up the biggest single market for the Heroin that they produce.

PRG-7, SA-7 and M-79 (!!!)

Why bother, and from Thailand..

Seems like local "INC" is in business here..

Doing some propaganda to get rid of regime which they (which is very few..) dont want.. and only for their personal gain..



If terrorists are looking for weapons their list in these kinds of weapons wouldnt include those, but would rather be like this:

RPG-7V
SA-14/16/18
GP-25

Here some images of those:

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The RPG-7V is a recoilless, shoulder-fired, muzzle-loaded, reloadable, antitank grenade launcher. It fires an 85-mm (PG-7) or 70-mm (PG-7M) rocket-assisted HEAT grenade from a 40-mm smoothbore launcher tube. The launcher has two hand grips; a large optical sight; a thick, wooden heat guard around the middle; and a large, flared blast shield at the rear of the tube. The RPG-7V is light enough to be carried and fired by one person. However, an assistant grenadier normally deploys to the left of the gunner to protect him with small arms fire. The grenadier normally carries two rounds of ammunition, and the assistant grenadier carries three rounds. The internal rocket motor of the PG-7/7M grenade ignites after traveling approximately 11 meters; this gives the projectile higher velocity (sustained out to 500 meters), flatter trajectory, and better accuracy. Further enhancing accuracy are four large, knife-like fins at the rear of the projectile which unfold when the round leaves the tube, and smaller, offset fins at the very rear which produce a slow rotation. The maximum effective range is 500 meters for stationary targets and 300 meters for moving targets. Maximum range is 920 meters, at which point the projectile self-destructs approximately 4.5 seconds after launching. The PG-7/-7M grenade, with a shaped-charge warhead, has armor penetration of 330 millimeters. The current RPG-7V model can mount a telescope and both infrared and passive night sights. All RPG-7 models have optical sights which can be illuminated for night sighting. They have open sights for emergency use.


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The SA-18 GROUSE (Igla 9K38) is an improved variant in the the SA-7 & SA-14 series of manportable SAMs. As with the earlier SA-14, the SA-18 uses of a similar thermal battery/gas bottle, and the SA-18 has the same 2 kilogram high-explosive warhead fitted with a contact and grazing fuse. But the missile of entirely new design with substantially improved range and speed,. The new seeker and aerodynamic improvements extend its effective range, and its higher speed enables it to be used against faster targets. The SA-18 has a maximum range of 5200 meters and a maximum altitude of 3500 meters. The 9M39 missile SA-18 employs an IR guidance system using proportional convergence logic. The new seeker offers better protection against electro-optical jammers; the probability of kill against an unprotected fighter is estimated at 30-48%, and the use of IRCM jammers only degrades this to 24-30%.

(these percents are bogus, those are much higher as the system is more / or as capable than newest STINGERS!!!)

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The underbarrel launcher is designed to destroy exposed targets, the targets located behind light barricades, trenches or on reverse sides of slopes of hills at ranges from 50 to 400 meters. According to SPETSNAZ, GP-25 is indispensable also in a variety of operations like "Dynamic Entry" or "Territory Clearing". Supposing, a team has a mission of entering and clearing the premises occupied by a group of terrorists. Numerous situations like that revealed that the enemy may substantially fortify the premises and is ready to counter attack at any time. The SPETSNAZ group is like to have problems with entering without preliminary "fire preparations". In a word, before approaching the house and kicking the door out the team leader should be aware of the enemy is ready to meet his men with intensive suppressive gunfire. To prevent such unwanted blunders, the group should use a grenade launcher by firing through the windows, doors and other openings attempting to cover as much room inside as possible. By doing so, the group strongly discourages the enemy. It is exactly the moment when the team may approach the house. Now it is time to make use of hand grenades by throwing them inside the premises with greater precision paying special attention to enemy's strongholds, cavities and niches where Bad Guys may be looking for additional shelter. Stunned with blasts and suffering casualties from grenades, the enemy offers a lower level of resistance.


The grenade launcher assembled and ready for deployment: barrel and mount are attached to the main frame with grip and trigger. On the left side of mount one can see sighting scale: white marking are for direct fire; red markings are for curved trajectory. The front sight is of a pin type, adjustable for elevation. The side folding rear sight is of a "U"-notch type, non-adjustable. To set sights to any specific range, depress the knob located on the upper rib of sighting bracket and place an arrow against selected range marking. Firing on a curved trajectory, place an arrow against desired red marking. Once position of sighting pendulum coincides with position of the arrow, the range is set.

The grenade launcher fits readily to the full-sized assault rifles AKM, AKMS, AK74, AK74M, AK101, AK103 and AN-94. No adjustments are required.



People really should check the facts before they start to lie..

As all these weapons are much easier to get from the black market than those MUSEUM PIECES mentioned..

And are much, much more effective!!!



[Edited on 11-10-2003 by FULCRUM]

The SA-7 (Grail) is a light-weight Soviet infantry surface-to-air missile. It has a range of 10 km and a flight speed of mach 1.

An attempt of shooting AF-1 ?

SA-7 is like AIM-9 (the basic AIM-9 from 50s..)

It usually doesnt lock on target and when one gets a lock on it is usually the SUN that it is targeting..

Also it is tail chase only missile..

It has been said that ARAB forces fired 5000 SA-7s during 1973 Yom Kippur war, without shooting down any IDF/AF aircraft with those..

Surely many were damaged, but none downed..

This is not effective weapon.. (usually isnt..)

You all are overkilling this situation.

Eating a pretzel is a "terror" risk for Bush, for crying out loud! Even when he is standing, ok he was moveing but not of his own power, he is in a terror risk enviornment. The guy is accident prone, honestly, I wouldn't want to be his Secret Service guys...could be more dangerious alone with Bush than in public. So I don't think it has anything to do with where he is or goes, Bush just always has that black cloud...family curse?

Or is Papa just testing out the controls on his new remote control "clone".

ADVISOR,

What do you mean?

I am just talking about weapons here..



And saying that these people have much more easier ways to get better weapons than from some bottom hole jungle country Thailand or Cambodia..

And I'm saying no one needs to try and kill or harm Bush. As he is obviously plenty capible if it himself.


And yes, they could get WAY better weapons and probably cheaper than some of that, vintage collectors pieces.


These drug guys have as much capitol or more than any first world country, includeing USA. They are in a global profit activity, with that kind of funding any weapon they want is theirs.

Besides, everyone knows you get what you pay for...and even I wouldn't suffer my enemy to use those artifacts, as effective as they still are.

But then again, maybe no one cares about quality control.



[Edited on 11-10-2003 by ADVISOR]

Yeah. But I must say, if anyone suddenly tries to shut them down, all hell will break loose in the US.

I would like to think that the biggest "terrorist threat" that Bush faces would be the 292 million US citizens he's pissed off since he got appointed into office...