Good find.

Scary indeed. It's spreading like wildfire, and seems to be more deadly. I wonder though - the stats depend totally on the reporting. And I don't think the reporting is what you'd call reliable.

I'm beginning to suspect more news is getting out because of the "sixth extinction" event - and the fact that wild animals are seriously at risk.

What do you think?

I agree on all counts...

This is setting up to be our worst nightmare...

God, I hope we are wrong!!!!!!

Originally posted by loam
I agree on all counts...

This is setting up to be our worst nightmare...

God, I hope we are wrong!!!!!!

Actually - I was thinking of it the other way around. Meaning there are more infected survivors than are reported. Which means the fatality rate is actually lower - and suggests that we are adapting to this all-new retooled world we have created.

But we still need to do some serious clean-up and lower exposure levels so our systems are not overwhelmed to death.


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Originally posted by soficrow
Actually - I was thinking of it the other way around. Meaning there are more infected survivors than are reported. Which means the fatality rate is actually lower - and suggests that we are adapting to this all-new retooled world we have created.

Sofi, I'm not convinced that the adaptation rate of complex organisms is that robust. Given the speed of the most serious variants, I don't think they can keep up.

Here's the biggest problem I have.... If I'm right, how long do you think it would take for us to even notice the massive penetration of the virus into wild animal populations? Several months, at best? Look at what's happened in just a few weeks with bird populations... Moreover, up until now, we aren't even looking at much in the wild, except for a few wild migratory bird populations and domesticated animals. That scares the hell out of me.

The fact that we now have water born transmission is an indication to me that that has probably been true from the beginning...and as others have said, likely accounts for the rapid global spread we are now witnessing.

I wish you were right, but I am very skeptical.


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Originally posted by loam

The fact that we now have water born transmission is an indication to me that that has probably been true from the beginning...and as others have said, likely accounts for the rapid global spread we are now witnessing.

Okay - I am grasping at straws. But - seems to me there have been numerous vectors from the beginning - early 1900's, NOT 1959 - including bodily fluids, and congenital transmission. As you know, I think the key agent is a prion hitchhiking on the virus - so it's everywhere, can't be killed because it's not alive.

I'm not convinced that we can adapt quickly enough - but I am certain we have a MUCH bigger headstart than most people realize. About 3-5 generations.

Point being: There is some hope. And it ain't genetic engineering.


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Excellent work, loam!

It is, in fact, scary.
We are facing a difficult year but I am sure, somewhere, they have to be investigating in order to find a way to stop it. If we will know when they find it or if they already have the key, who knows?

Can I make a question?
Why or how did the disease start?
Do we have an accurated information about it?

Also, I wonder why some people are not infected and others are, even though being exposed the same. We surely are missing something important.

What do people older than 40 years old have that people less than 40 do not have?

And the countdown has started...