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Topic started on 26-3-2006 @ 03:50 AM by Street Scholar
All this talk of revolution (usually called civil war improperly) and none of it mentions the current demonstrations.



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Immigration rights advocates more than 500,000 strong marched in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday, demanding that Congress abandon attempts to make illegal immigration a felony and to build more walls along the border.

The massive demonstration, by far the biggest of several around the nation in recent days, came as President Bush prodded Republican congressional leaders to give some illegal immigrants a chance to work legally in the U.S. under certain conditions.


These demonstrations dwarf the current anti-war movement! As I see it, the biggest potential for a civil war (currently) comes from these protests. What if these laws were passed, and/or someone were to catalyst these demonstrations into violence? Hypothetically, if every illegal immigrant in the US were to all of a sudden become felons, who's to stop this from escalating?

I don't necessarily believe this will happen, but with all the recent discussion or revolution this seems much more probable the other situations discussed.

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reply posted on 26-3-2006 @ 09:56 AM by Rasobasi420
Originally posted by jsobecky
If the protestors want to cut the legs off from under their movement, then let them escalate it into violence. Then they will rightfully bring the full force and fury of the gov't down on their heads.

It's one thing to voice your opinion on something; it's a much greater thing to raise your hand in violence against the nation that you are trying to gain acceptance in.


www.cnn.com...
Stunned police had only to sit and watch, as 500,000 protesters hit the streets of L.A. in what turned out to be a perfectly peaceful march Saturday. City police said there were no incidents or arrests. The demonstration was intended to send a message to Congress that its plans for immigration reform -- which target immigrants, employers and even Samaritans -- are not well received. "I've been on the force 38 years and I've never seen a rally this big," said Cmdr. Louis Gray Jr., incident commander for the rally.

A rally this size with no arrests means this isn't about violence. In rallies one tenth the size there is often dozens if not hundreds of arrests. This is a real nonviolent movement that I think deserves respect.


reply posted on 26-3-2006 @ 10:49 AM by XphilesPhan
Originally posted by marg6043
Very sad to see that many Americans fail to understand the issue of immigration in our country.

Immigrants accounts for almost 10 million people in our nation.

Doing drastic changes to change immigration laws or to make new ones is targeting those millions of people that are already in the US.

This no about borders only, which is what many fail to see.

You can not stop something that has been going on since our nation was founded.

Drastic measure will bring drastic responses.


are you so foolish? or do you live on the east coast in liberal america where these things arent really your concern?

NO! ILLEGAL immigrations has not been going on since our country was founded and this has everything to do with borders.

these people openly said they want to take over a part of your country, and get rid of the "anglos".

BIG corporations, which most people suited to your ideology are supposed to be against, only want these borders to remain the way they are so they can exploit "slave labor" and you want to allow it!!

Crime rates in the areas these people have settled have exploded. The borders are wide open for drug traficers, sex slave traficers, on and on...

These people march around chanting "La Raza!" do you know what that means?! that means "the Race" and we are supposed to tolerate this crap!? they hate "gringos" even though they are the gringos.






I just hope the legislation goes through and becomes law.

[edit on 26-3-2006 by XphilesPhan]


reply posted on 26-3-2006 @ 11:26 AM by marg6043
Originally posted by XphilesPhan

are you so foolish? or do you live on the east coast in liberal America where these things arent really your concern?



I am a common sense Latino woman and very proud of it

Even your roots are from immigrant descendants, unless you are a native American you are in this country like everybody else, because your ancestor came in boat.


these people openly said they want to take over a part of your country, and get rid of the "Anglos".


Really it sounds like what the supremacies will say to make their point valid within the supremacies sympathizers.

But wait a moment this what is also been said about Islam and muslin in America they are taking the country too.


BIG corporations, which most people suited to your ideology are supposed to be against, only want these borders to remain the way they are so they can exploit "slave labor" and you want to allow it!!


More garbage when you can not even understand the real issue about the people that are already living in this country 10 million immigrants what you want to do with them?

They are going nowhere they are here to stay and you better get use to it.


Crime rates in the areas these people have settled have exploded. The borders are wide open for drug traficers, sex slave traficers, on and on...


You really believe this do you, crime, drugs and sex is all the immigrants fault do you.

Denied Ignorance.

El Dia De La Raza, obviously you have no clue what is all about, but here you are Telling me what is all about? I am laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes.


Dia de la Raza

Definition: Latin Americans and Hispanics celebrate October 12 as the anniversary of Christopher Columbus's discovery of the New World.

In the United States it is known as Columbus Day and is observed on the second Monday in October.

The Spanish name means Day of the Race and is a time to remember how the Spanish race, as in people, influenced the world.



La Raza the rich mixture of Spanish and indigenous cultures which characterizes us the latino people, I have Black slave blood, Taino,Spanish and Italian that is mi Raza.

I see that your education about history and historical facts is as lacking as your education on the history of your own country.

Here is a littler history about the humble beginnings of the new world, but I imagine that you will ignore because is has nothing to do with what you will like to know.

Pity.

zedilloworld.presidencia.gob.mx...



These people march around chanting "La Raza!" do you know what that means?! that means "the Race" and we are supposed to tolerate this crap!? they hate "gringos" even though they are the gringos.


Unbelievable that people are still so ignorant of facts. Yes everybody wants US and everybody wants to take this country away from the Anglos.

Maybe you should get some lessons on who is selling this country right now to foreign interest, America doesn't belong to the Americans and has been like that since China, Saudi Arabia, Asia and many other third world countries has been buying our nation out.

Reality check.

The only folish person here is you.

Viva la Raza!!!!





[edit on 26-3-2006 by marg6043]


reply posted on 26-3-2006 @ 12:00 PM by 2stepsfromtop
Originally posted by XphilesPhan

"whites get off our continent" "go back to europe" and calling texas and california "aztlan" their ancestral homeland.


Aside from the proven liberal and capatilist ideology accepting their behavior instead of shouting it down,
AZTLAN was a fantasy!

Planted in the minds of easily lead students like these. by this East Los Angeles high school teacher Carlos Jimenez, a well known troublemaker that hides behind 'race' every time his colleagues call him out.
From mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha

More information here

From insearchofaztlan
a humorous look at the search for the mystical Aztlan.
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