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Timber Smuggling With Rockets in Chitral, Pakistan

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posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 06:14 AM
Kidney Failure in Chitral

Osama Bin Laden is said to have a kidney failure. Treatment in Chitral cost "more than 3 lac rupees". I'm sure Bin Laden can afford to pay for it...

Chitral News: Miscellaneous News

23 March 08

Appeal for Financial Assistance:

Aurangzeb S/O Fazal Dad is a poor fellow. He suffers from kidney failure. The treatment of this disease costs more than 3 lac rupees which the poor patient cannot bear on his own.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Hoping the best for Aurangzeb S/O Fazal Dad, and that he'll get the donations he needs for his treatment.

posted on May, 26 2008 @ 10:36 AM
Bin Laden in K2 mountains

Dubai, 26 May (AKI) - (by Hamza Boccolini) - Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden is hiding in the K2 mountains of northern Pakistan, according to sources cited by Arabic television network, Al-Arabiya.

The report also said US secret services were intending to drive him out in a major military operation encompassing the northern Pakistani tribal areas.

Reports say that the CIA has located the Saudi terrorist in so-called "rooftop of the world", the area of Pakistan that borders Afghanistan to the west, in particular the chain of mountains of Nurestan and China to the north.

The article also mentions

Last week Petraeus testified before a US Congressional committee about security in Iraq and warned that members of al-Qaeda based in Pakistan's tribal areas were planning a new September 11 attack.

Which coincides with a new posting at the Islamic network loyalty forum, hinting about an upcoming attack.

[edit on 5/26/08 by makeitso]

posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 03:41 PM
According to this, Bin Laden lived in Chitral sometime the '80s. I didn't know that.

Pagan sect at Pakistan border lives amid militant Islam

June 7, 2008

On the northwest tip of Pakistan, bordering Afghanistan's Nuristan province, the inaccessible Chitral district has long been thought to be a possible refuge for Osama bin Laden. With the high peaks of the Hindu Kush range and its narrow valleys, it's easy to dodge through secret mountain routes between Pakistan and Afghanistan.


According to locals, bin Laden lived with a Kalasha family in Chitral for some time during his first Afghan jihad against the Soviet Union in the 1980s.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 02:08 AM
Cuckoo spotted in Chitral

The Cuckoo has managed to cross over the Lowari pass, and has been spotted in Chitral. The Golden Oriole rules, and doesn't want competition.

Cuckoo comes to Chitral

23 June 08

Looks like the Cuckoo (Asian Koel) has managed to cross over the Lowari pass even before the tunnel has been completed. The bird has been spotted in Chitral for the first time this season.


The new comer to Chitral however has to find a place for itself as it has been seen jealously pecked away by the Golden Oriole, which rules the melody roost up here and wants no competitor in this regard.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Jun, 28 2008 @ 07:46 AM
"Ugly steel structures in the form of mobile towers"

There is apparently a great rush for erecting mobile towers in Chitral. Some people are worried about the safety in regards to the towers' ability to withstand earthquakes.

Mobile phone tower hazards

26 June 08

There is a great rush for erecting mobile phone towers in Chitral and the city's erstwhile clear skyline is littered with ugly steel structures in the form of mobile towers. All the big cellular companies have landed here and are engaged in a race to capture a rapidly growing market, ahead of others.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 03:30 PM
There's a new story/rumour on Bin Laden. Thread here:

Bin Laden May Die of Kidney Disease in 6 Months, Time Reports (by Maxmars)

No comment...

posted on Jul, 2 2008 @ 04:15 PM
If Bin Laden's exact location were determined, Pakistan would allow US to launch a Predator drone strike on Pakistani soil. In fact, the US has had permission from Pakistan to do so since October 2001.

Pakistan would allow US drone strike on bin Laden: report

2 July 2008

Pakistan long ago gave Washington the right to launch an immediate Predator drone strike on Osama bin Laden, without first notifying Islamabad, if he is located in Pakistani tribal areas, The Washington Times reported Wednesday.

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf granted this exception to other limits on US counterterrorism operations in his country "early" in the war against Al-Qaeda, launched in Afghanistan in October 2001, the Times said, citing "a knowledgeable official."


But military officials believe that if bin Laden's exact location were determined, a missile-equipped Predator drone could be airborne or redirected in flight "in a matter of minutes."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 02:56 PM
I feel this is very relevant to this thread:

Douglas Farah: Deja vu All Over Again

Aug 1, 2008

Immediately after questions about Pakistan’s ISI’s definition of who the enemy actually is, we get a report that says the ISI is actively aiding the Taliban in bombing activities.

The conclusion (that the ISI helped plan the July 7 bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul) was based on intercepted communications between Pakistani intelligence officers and militants who carried out the attack, the officials said, providing the clearest evidence to date that Pakistani intelligence officers are actively undermining American efforts to combat militants in the region.

The American officials also said there was new information showing that members of the Pakistani intelligence service were increasingly providing militants with details about the American campaign against them, in some cases allowing militants to avoid American missile strikes in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

So, not only are members of the ISI, the recipient of billions of dollars in US aid since 9/11, not interested in helping hunt for Bin Laden, but they are using US taxpayer dollars to help plan attacks by our enemies against our friends.

Click here to read the whole thing...

posted on Aug, 19 2008 @ 03:53 AM
Celebrations in Chitral

Musharraf has resigned and people in Chitral is happy for his resignation.

Musharraf exit welcomed in Chitral

CHITRAL 19 Aug 08: The resignation of president Musharraf spread like wild fire in Chitral. Workers of political parties, lawyers and shopkeepers in the bazaars congratulated each other and distributed sweets to express their glee.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 04:14 PM
More airstrikes in Pakistan today-

'US strike' hits Pakistan village

A US strike on a Pakistani village near the Afghan border has killed at least nine people including suspected foreign militants, Pakistani sources say.

Initial reports said at least 20 people had died when an unmanned aircraft (drone) fired on the village in North Waziristan region.

Pakistan officials: Suspected US strikes kill 12

DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (AP) — Two suspected U.S. missile strikes Friday on villages close to the border with Afghanistan killed at least 12 people, most of them militants, Pakistani intelligence officials said.

American forces recently ramped up cross-border operations against Taliban and al-Qaida militants in Pakistan's border zone with Afghanistan — a region considered a likely hiding place for Osama bin Laden.

Pakistan official says country at war

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — A senior Pakistani official says the government is fighting a war that will continue until the country is free of terrorism.

Interior Ministry chief Rehman Malik said in remarks broadcast Friday that previous Pakistani military campaigns against Islamic militants were halted too soon.

He said the current government will take operations to their "logical conclusion" and that "this war will continue until we make Pakistan terrorism-free."

And I don't know if this was posted before in this thread:

Spain: Confidential report says Pakistan intelligence agency aided Taliban

Madrid, 3 Oct. (AKI) - A confidential report by Spain's Defence Ministry has claimed that Pakistan's intelligence agency and Al-Qaeda aided Taliban militants in assassination plots against Afghan government leaders.

The confidential report, produced in August 2005, was obtained by Spain's Cadena Ser radio and posted online (photo).

The 2005 report said that it was possible that Taliban training camps in Pakistan were being backed by the Inter-Services Intelligence or ISI.

(Neglected) Breaking Alternative News Thread-
Spanish report ties Pakistan spy agency to Taliban (by FredT)

The way the conflict has escalated in Pakistan and the
steady increase in news reports reminds me of the
lead-up to the (albeit brief) Georgian-Russian War.

posted on Oct, 5 2008 @ 04:13 PM
News video on 'Azzam the American'

Latest news on the recent U.S. airstrikes-

Taliban said to be furious over US missile strike

DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (AP) — The Taliban are furious about the latest apparent U.S. missile strike in Pakistan, indicating a senior militant may be among two dozen people killed, officials and residents said Sunday.

The attack Friday on the North Waziristan tribal region was believed to have killed several Arab fighters but government officials have been notably quiet.

Here's an interesting part-

However, two Pakistani intelligence officials said insurgents were moving aggressively in the area while using harsh language against local residents, including calling them "salable commodities" — an accusation of spying.

The intelligence officials, who said their information came from informants and field agents, interpreted the Taliban's anger as a sign that a senior militant may have been among at least 24 people killed. But that has not been confirmed, said the officials, who sought anonymity because they were not allowed to speak to media.

This one is a little more in-depth-

Pakistan has poor track record reporting deaths of senior terrorist leaders

A senior Taliban or al Qaeda leader may have been killed in the Oct. 2 airstrike in North Waziristan, according to unconfirmed reports from Pakistan. But without confirmation from either the Taliban or the US, reports from Pakistani officials should be viewed as suspect.

The US carried out two separate strikes in North Waziristan on Oct. 2. Both strikes hit tribal areas in North Waziristan run by the Haqqani family. The strike in Mohammed Khel is reported to have killed 23, including 16 or more "Arab" al Qaeda members.


But this year's reports of the death of senior al Qaeda and Taliban leaders from Pakistani sources have almost always been false.

Since January 2008, nine senior al Qaeda and Taliban leaders, including Ayman al Zawahiri and Baitullah Mehsud, have been reported to have been killed inside Pakistan. Of those reported killed, only three have been confirmed killed. All three al Qaeda leaders were killed in US cross-border strikes, not in Pakistani offensive operations. The other six leaders who were reported killed by Pakistani sources have appeared in the media or on al Qaeda propaganda tapes.

What's to expect when the ISI are in cahoots with the enemy?

posted on Dec, 7 2008 @ 07:38 AM
A small paragraph in an article in The Long War Journal mentions a Pakistan ISI officer and documentation captured in Afghanistan. The ISI officer claims that he escorted Bin Laden to Chitral in 2005.

Pakistans Jihad

Pakistani intelligence officers have been caught aiding America's foes inside Afghanistan. In December 2006, Afghan security forces captured Sayed Akbar, an ISI officer. Akbar had been tasked by Pakistani intelligence with serving as a conduit to al Qaeda, which was operating along the Afghan-Pakistani border in the Kunar region.

An aide to President Karzai told reporters that "evidence and documents [had] been seized with [Akbar] proving his destructive activities in Afghanistan." Afghan officials said Akbar confessed to conducting "illegal activities" in Afghanistan. According to Akbar, he had escorted Osama bin Laden as he traveled from Afghanistan's Nuristan province into the mountainous district of Chitral in northwestern Pakistan in 2005. While there have been numerous bin Laden sightings along the Afghan-Pakistani border, he was reported to have been sheltered in Chitral at this time. In fact, FBI agents visited Chitral in early 2006 to assess the reports.

posted on Dec, 7 2008 @ 01:54 PM
reply to post by makeitso

Wow, good find!
And this thread was started in March 2006

posted on Feb, 23 2009 @ 06:44 AM
American Scientists: Bin Laden is in Parachinar

Some American scientists have come to the conclusion that Bin Laden is most likely to be found in one of three buildings in Parachinar. It's the most likely hiding place, they say...

Geographers Find bin Laden — Theoretically

Using principles for predicting the distribution of wildlife, geographers at U.C.L.A. have identified what they say is the most logical hiding place for Osama bin Laden: Parachinar, a town in the mountains of Pakistan south of the Khyber Pass. And they’ve even identified the most likely buildings in town.


By that reasoning, the researchers assume that Mr. bin Laden is likely to be in a relatively large town close to his last publicly reported location, the Tora Bora caves in eastern Afghanistan.

They've got the location wrong. He's in Chitral, everybody knows that...

posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 12:17 PM

posted on May, 4 2009 @ 09:24 PM
Marble, Timber and Gemstones

reply to post by Hellmutt

Do you remember the marble in Chitral? And the timber? Valuable resources to fund terror...

Gems, Timber and Jiziya: Pakistan's Taliban Harness Resources to Fund Jihad

Observers fear the wealth at the disposal of Taliban will enable them to sustain their jihad activities in Pakistan and beyond.

The exploitation of northwest Pakistan’s natural resources for organizational revenues started in April 2008, when Taliban militants took over the Ziarat marble quarry, a white marble mine in the Mohmand tribal district.


Another lucrative source of income for the Taliban is Swat’s forests. The symbiotic tie between Taliban militants and the Timber mafia in Swat and nearby Dir is no secret.

They cut down the forest and cause enormous environmental damage. Click the link to read the whole thing.



reply to post by Hellmutt

...A friendly market for their products.

Douglas Farah: Gemstones and the Terrorist Financial Infrastructure

May 4 2009

One thing of significant importance (and which had not developed at the time of my reporting on diamonds and al Qaeda) is the emergence of both Dubai and Ras al Khaimah (two of the seven emirates of the United Arab Emirates, one of only three governments to recognize the Taliban when it was in power the first time) as leading diamond markets and gemstone centers.

This means that Taliban and its friends and allies have a nearby, friendly market for their products, and a way to move them virtually undetected into the world market.

This is no small thing. Prior to this (circa 9/11) the diamonds had to be moved from West Africa to Brussels and, later, Lebanon, in order to be sold. That left more of a traceable trail, and involved intermediaries that were not entirely reliable. Those vulnerabilities are now lessened.

This, to me, one of the greatest dangers of the new world. Self-financing, non-state armed groups that control “honeypots” of resources that make them largely invulnerable to outside influences and pressures

Click the link to read the whole thing.

posted on Oct, 22 2009 @ 03:37 PM
There was a magnitude 6.2 earthquake just now, not far from Chitral

6.2 Earthquake - Afghanistan

Map from EMSC

posted on Nov, 12 2009 @ 11:49 AM

Bin laden is rumoured to have been hiding in the Kunar Province in Afghanistan, in the spring and summer of 2009.

Kunar Province

Osama bin Laden has often been rumoured to be in the province, or close by.


According to Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik, Osama bin Laden was most likely hiding in Kunar Province in the spring and summer of 2009: "According to our information Osama is in Afghanistan, probably Kunar, as most of the activities against Pakistan are being directed from Kunar.

Look at a map of Afghanistan/Pakistan. Kunar river flows through the city of Chitral, Pakistan.

posted on Nov, 12 2009 @ 03:00 PM
reply to post by Hellmutt

Very Lush area, not like the arid areas we associate with his cave hopping.
More trees to hide under.

So these 'rumours'are impossible to nail down, half are probably planted by his camp and by Pakistan, possibly the CIA with its investments in the cartels there.

I do think Pakistan knows where he is, I guess they keep that little scalp as a hidden treasure trove, to stay an "ally" to the US when they are nuclear, to keep the Afghans in turmoil, and to keep the other armies preoocupied whilst their troops on border patrol allow the yearly opium harvests to cross the border and supply 95% of the worlds trade.

posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 11:45 AM
More indications of Bin Laden being able to hide in Chitral. And when Musharraf visited Chitral (page 1), maybe he even met Bin Laden there? Bombay (Mumbai), India, was bombed a few days later, on July 11 2006. Also check out the video posted here (Musharraf dancing in Chitral on July 9 2006).

BBC: Pakistani agents 'funding and training Afghan Taliban'

13 June 2010

Pakistani intelligence gives funding, training and sanctuary to the Afghan Taliban on a scale much larger than previously thought, a report says.

Taliban field commanders interviewed for the report suggested that ISI intelligence agents even attend Taliban supreme council meetings.


Links between the Taliban and Pakistan's intelligence service have long been suspected, but the report's author - Harvard analyst Matt Waldman - says there is real evidence of extensive co-operation between the two.

"This goes far beyond just limited, or occasional support," he said. "This is very significant levels of support being provided by the ISI.

"We're also saying this is official policy of that agency, and we're saying that it is very extensive. It is both at an operational level, and at a strategic level, right at the senior leadership of the Taliban movement."

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