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Timber Smuggling With Rockets in Chitral, Pakistan

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posted on Apr, 3 2007 @ 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Seeker PI

Do you think he's being protected by unseen western hands

Actually the opposite, I believe he is protected by Musharraf. Maybe even by China, as China and Musharraf are best buddies.

PS: Is that Rabbit for real ?

Yup, he' for real. He's name is Bodmin. He's living in East Essex, UK.

[edit on 2007/4/3 by Hellmutt]

posted on Apr, 3 2007 @ 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Hellmutt
Actually the opposite, I believe he is protected by Musharraf. Maybe even by China, as China and Musharraf are best buddies.

Musharrafs caught between a rock and a hard place, so I can see him trying to play both ends of the game.

I'am suprised you think China may have their sticky hands in the pot.
Wouldn't something so provocative be suicidal, or do you figure they don't give a damn because Pakistan would take the heat ?

My regards to Bodmin. Does he chase down dogs and cats, he looks like he's capable?

posted on Apr, 29 2007 @ 09:10 PM
A missile narrowly missed a relief plane heading for Chitral. The plane and a VIP chopper aborted their mission.

Dawn: Rocket fired on relief plane

A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) transport aircraft and a VIP chopper aborted their missions for Chitral on Thursday after a rocket was fired on one of them near Dir, sources told Dawn.

The PAF C-130 aircraft was taking relief goods to Chitral from the Chaklala airbase when the pilot noticed a rocket missing it while flying over Dir. The pilot aborted the relief mission and returned back to Islamabad after about an hour, the source said.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on May, 3 2007 @ 07:52 AM

posted on May, 3 2007 @ 08:44 AM
I was wondering if anyone would post about the Bin Laden look alike, because I ran into an interesting article in the Chitral News.

No Bin Laden look alike in Chitral

CHITRAL, 01 May 07: People from all walks of life in Chitral have condemned fresh news reports in a section of the foreign press, which claims that a look alike of Osama Bin Laden namely Sher Akbar resident of Bache Mital Afghanistan has been arrested from Chitral.

With the tourist season approaching many Chitralis believe that there could be a foreign (Indian) conspiracy in spreading this news, to scare tourists away from Pakistan

Who's foolin' who?

[edit on 5/3/07 by makeitso]

posted on Jun, 7 2007 @ 09:36 PM
"Sabotage" of air service to Chitral. They apparently don't want people to go to Chitral.

Chitral News: Sabotage of Chitral air service

I phoned PIA universal access number and requested for seats on June 5th, flight to Chitral but I was told that there is not even a single seat available till July 2nd . I then went to a travel agent and asked for tickets on request (chance). It was difficult to find seats on chance even, I was however, lucky to have three tickets on request (chance). On June 5th morning I took my family members to the airport and all three of them plus an infant who had to travel, got a chance on the flight. The flight was cancelled due to bad weather in Chitral and when the passengers came out of the lounge I found that in fact there were only 13 passengers traveling on that flight and only 7 of them were holding confirm tickets while the rest were on request including 4 of my family members. I then asked the PIA staff members at Islamabad Airport what was the logic behind denying tickets to travelers on this flight but they had no answer and maintained a meaningful silence.

As a matter of fact it seems that there is really a conspiracy working against this new development which is trying to prove this flight to be a financial burden on PIA and justify it to be worthless.

It's a conspiracy...

posted on Jun, 28 2007 @ 05:10 PM
Moonshine, Brainwashing and Talibanization in Chitral

Islamists in Chitral are brainwashing the youth (sometimes by force) and turning them into soldiers. The region is being radicalized by Taliban and Al Qaeda. Training camps and soldier factories all around. Why would Osama not hide there? No need to hide in a cave. I bet he even has internet...

Photo: friend_faraway

International Herald Tribune: A view from the roof of the world

June 28, 2007

Though Pakistani police officials recently stopped soldiers for smuggling the Kalasha version of moonshine to the district capital where it is a favorite at polo matches, the alcohol production, a small source of outside income, has also become a target for hard-line Islamic groups.

The Al-Khidmat Foundation, an off-shoot of the welfare organization set up by the deceased Egyptian mentor of Osama bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam, is a leading actor here. The rigid religious curriculum promoted by the group's political wing, Jamaat-e-Islami, has radicalized the region. In Chitral, as across Pakistan's Northwestern Frontier Province, orphans and impoverished youth are recruited - sometimes by force - for strict schooling. Where several years ago there was one Islamic school, or madrasa, in the three small Kalasha valleys, there are now 16 and many of them feed recruits into the war in Afghanistan.

"We live in a hub of Islamization and so we are being crushed," says Lakshan Bibi, 32, a Kalasha woman who runs a self-help NGO and who was recently kidnapped for ransom. "The Taliban are motivated by George Bush's war on terror. The boys go through a form of military training. It is brainwashing and when they finish they believe they are defending their own culture. And if they have to kill, it will be a source of pride at the cost of our own blood."

posted on Jul, 3 2007 @ 12:11 PM
I found an interactive map that allows a good zoomable view of the Chitral area. I thought it may help readers to understand the size of the area Chitral covers, and give them easy access to view the surrounding area.

Place your mouse on the square boxes for info on the marked areas.


On another note about Chitral - Bin Laden connection, there was a couple of recent articles that I found while looking into a recent disturbance at the Red Mosque in Islamabad Pakistan. The article is about a group called TNSM who's power base is near Chitral.


There has since then been a significant resurgence in the activities of the TNSM in the Malakand Division of the NWFP and in the Bajaur Agency of the FATA

Many believe that if Osama bin Laden is alive, he would most probably be in the Chitral area of the Malakand region. Of all the Pashtuns of the Pakistan-Afghanistan border region, bin Laden reportedly trusts those of Malakand the most. He considers them to be as loyal to him as his fellow-tribesmen from Yemen/Saudi Arabia are.

US to Hunt the Taliban Inside Pakistan - All Roads Lead to the Red Mosque

a pro-Taliban force named Tehrik-i-Nifaz-i-Shariat-i-Mohammadi (TNSM) has spread rapidly, and its influence ranges from Bajaur, Malakand, Swat Valley and Mingora.

All these pro-Taliban/al-Qaeda zones on the Afghan border have connections with the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) in Islamabad, run by outspoken brothers Maulana Abdul Aziz and Ghazi Abdul Rasheed. The brothers are openly pro-Taliban and also run large Islamic seminaries for boys and girls.

The Pakistani establishment believes Aziz is in fact the new leader of all the Taliban and al-Qaeda assets spreading through northwestern Pakistan

I posted some background info about the group in this thread. There is a lot more info that there just wasn't enough time to post.

There is enough research material out there to start a very long ATS thread about these groups international attacks IMO.

[edit on 7/3/07 by makeitso]

posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 05:50 PM
Remote Controlled Roadside Bombs

A roadside bomb exploded on the Peshawar-Swat highway and killed 4 army personnel. One of them was a Major. Another roadside bomb targeted a convoy on its way to Chitral.

DAWN: Major among four killed in bomb blast

July 6 2007

Four army personnel were killed and another was critically wounded when a military jeep leading a convoy was hit by a roadside bomb near Dargai on the Peshawar-Swat highway on Friday.

Officials suspect that the device fitted to a bicycle parked on the highway in Pull Chowki area was exploded by a remote control.


A Frontier Corps convoy going to Shandur to provide security to the polo festival escaped a roadside bomb blast in Darora area. The windscreen of a vehicle was damaged but no one was injured.


Police said the convoy advanced towards Chitral.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

And now, the Chitral-Peshawar highway has been closed because of a landslide.

Chitral News: Chitral-Peshawar road cut off

08 Jul 2007

If main road had been blocked any where else in Pakistan it would have been a news flashed by the TV channels but with Chitral it being a routine matter has not been given any importance.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:16 PM
Three Chinese Killed Near Peshawar

Islamic militants killed three Chinese in the outskirts of Peshawar. It might have been a revenge attack over the Mosque siege. Suspected militants kill three Chinese in northwest Pakistan


Suspected Islamic militants Sunday shot dead three Chinese men in northwest Pakistan which security sources said could be a revenge attack over the siege of a radical mosque in Islamabad.

A fourth Chinese man was critically wounded in the assault at their home on the outskirts of Peshawar, the capital of North West Frontier Province bordering Afghanistan.


"All the attackers were bearded and they fled without looting anything," Peshawar police chief Abdul Majeed Marwat said. He did not say what could be the motive for the attack on the Chinese, who had lived in the area for three years.

The wounded Chinese man said in hospital unknown men entered the house and sprayed bullets at them.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Related Threads:
Gwadar Watch Thread
Militants From Radical Mosque Charge Security Forces
Possible Assassination Attempt on Pakistani President Musharraf

Btw, in my previous post I said "Chitral-Peshawar highway". There is no highway, of course. I meant the "Chitral-Peshawar road".

posted on Jul, 21 2007 @ 04:54 AM
A mosque has been washed away in floods after a thunder storm about 150 miles north of Peshawar
83 are confirmed dead and dozens are missing. Lightning strikes apparently triggered landslides and floods...

Mosque Washed Away In North-West Pakistan After Thunder Storm

posted on Aug, 17 2007 @ 12:01 AM
Chitral = Zone-4

Chitral has been classified as a severe earthquake zone.

Experts classify country into four quake zones

Developing a new building code, a committee of experts has classified all parts of the country into minor, moderate, upper moderate and severe earthquake zones and declared that only few areas, including some parts of Azad Kashmir, Hazara division, Chitral and Quetta, fall in zone four, the severe damage zone.


Regarding the earthquake zoning, Dr Qaiser Ali said: “We classify earthquake-prone areas into five zones: 1, 2-A, 2-B, 3 and 4. Zone-1 is minor damage zone, 2-A moderate, 2-B upper moderate, 3 major and 4 severe damage zones.”

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Related Threads:
Geologist: Himalayan Quakes Could Kill Millions
Magnitude 7.6 Eartquake Rocks Pakistan

posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 06:10 AM
Bin Laden Alive And Extremely Healthy

According to a new video, dated June 15, Bin Laden is not only alive but also "extremely healthy and active"... Osama Bin Laden Is `Healthy and Active,' Taliban Says (Update2)

Aug. 22 2007

A Taliban commander in Afghanistan said al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden is alive and well, according to the transcript of a video provided by a U.S.-based organization that monitors extremist Web sites.

``He is extremely healthy and active,'' Mansour Dadullah said, according to the video's English-language subtitles. The clip was dated June 15, the IntelCenter in Alexandria, Virginia, said today.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Aug, 28 2007 @ 04:51 PM
Indian Navy Commander: Senior Al Qaeda leaders in Chitral

Commander of the Indian Navy, Alok Bansal, says that a number of senior Al Qaeda leaders have taken refuge in Chitral and Gilgit-Baltistan.

Unrest in Pakistan's 'Northern Areas' may affect India, says book

August 28

According to Bansal, with the intensification of the war in Afghanistan, a number of senior Al Qaeda leaders are reported to have taken refuge in Chitral and Gilgit-Baltistan.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 02:30 PM
CBS thinks OBL is in Chitral

U.S. Intelligence Believes Al Qeada Leader Is In Chitral District Of Northern Pakistan

Sept. 7, 2007
(CBS) As Osama bin Laden urges Americans to convert to Islam in a new video released Friday, the al Qaeda leader's location remains a mystery.

But informed sources tell CBS News U.S. intelligence believes Osama bin Laden is hiding out in the Chitral district of northern Pakistan. A number of reports from human sources, including some alleged sightings, have put him there, reports CBS News national security correspondent David Martin.

None of the reports has been independently confirmed, but there are enough of them to persuade intelligence analysts that it's his most likely location.

[edit on 9/8/07 by makeitso]

posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 03:00 PM
I guess we'll have to find him there, before I can say 'I told you so'...?

posted on Sep, 9 2007 @ 08:03 AM
Here's more: "Osama likely hiding in Pakistan"

Just days after Osama bin Laden's new video surfaced, US experts have made new claims that Osama bin Laden is most likely hiding in the Chitral region of North Pakistan.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

DAWN: Osama is in Chitral: US experts

Several US television channels and newspapers quoted US counter-terrorism experts as saying that bin Laden is hiding in Chitral because it is remote and its rugged terrain makes it impossible for Pakistani forces to look for him there. There’s enough evidence “to persuade intelligence analysts that it’s his most likely location,” an expert told CBS.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Here's Chitral News. They call it a "media bluff"...

ChitralNews: Media bluff about Chitral

The western media has once again misreported about the situation in Chitral. This time it is the 'CBS NEWS' which has reported quoting US intelligence agencies that Osama Bin Ladin is hiding in Chitral.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 06:08 PM
reply to post by Hellmutt

Who won?

Regarding Musharraf's visit to Chitral in July 2006 as mentioned on page one. This video is from 9 July 2006. According to the caption in this video, Musharraf was dancing with the Chitralis to celebrate that they've beaten Gilgit in the annual polo match in Shandur.

2006. when Chitral beat gilgit in shandur Polo match, President Gen Pervez Musharaf joined chitral Polo Team in the Celebrations

However, also from page one, I quoted an article saying that Chitral lost 9-6 to the gilgit tribe. So, who really won?
And if they lost, why were they celebrating and dancing in this video? If I remember correctly, there was a terror attack in Bombay, India just days after Musharraf had visited Chitral. It was blamed on Pakistan. Coincident? Maybe Chitral really won this year, and Musharraf was actually celebrating with the Chitralis. Still, if it turns out that Bin Laden was in Chitral during Musharraf's visit, it certainly raises some questions on Musharraf's participation in the War On Terror.

posted on Sep, 18 2007 @ 08:35 PM
Chitral Scouts Money Washed Away

Flash flood entered a TV station in Drosh Nallah and stopped transmissions. Houses belonging to M. Ameen, Bahadar Khan, Ahmad Khan, Aleem Khan and M Akbar were damaged, and a suitcase full of money was washed away. The suitcase belonged to Bahadar Khan, who is a carriage contractor of Chitral scouts...

Chitralnews: Flood damages in Drosh

18 Sep 07

The flood entering the TV station after breaking its compound went out by breaking backwall and entered houses damaging 5 houses one bridge and sidewall of so many houses besides breaking telephone lines and destroying standing crops of maize. Houses of M. Ameen, Bahadar Khan, Ahmad Khan, Aleem Khan and M Akbar were damaged. While cash of 120000 ina suitcase of Bahadar Khan who is a carriage contractor of Chitral scouts was also washed away in flood.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 08:40 AM
Bin Laden Again

According to a Pakistani Taliban leader, Osama Bin Laden is apparently moving between Chitral and the "corridor of Waqan". And he's even been to China...

Osama bin Laden Sighting?

Ahmad Farooq, a Pakistani Taliban leader has told the Italian daily, Corriere della Sera, that he knows where bin Laden is. According to Farooq, bin Laden is moving between Chitral and the "corridor of Waqan", a region of Pakistan bordering China and Tajikstan.

Bin Laden, he claims, is surrounded by 20 bodyguards at all times. His posse is constantly moving from village to vilage, sometimes across the borders. He's even been to China.

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