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posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 03:32 PM
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I've held this belief for many, many years. Don't scoff . . but think about this.

GENESIS 6:1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Now, when the flood occured, where did these 'super humans' go? Being half heaven-like and half-human they aren't going to disappear.

My theory is that what we are calling 'greys' are infact these 'sons of god' and are awaiting for their time in history. Are aliens demons? You decide. But I think they are out of this world!!!




posted on Mar, 23 2006 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by BrieflySpeaking
I've held this belief for many, many years. Don't scoff . . but think about this.

GENESIS 6:1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Now, when the flood occured, where did these 'super humans' go? Being half heaven-like and half-human they aren't going to disappear.

My theory is that what we are calling 'greys' are infact these 'sons of god' and are awaiting for their time in history. Are aliens demons? You decide. But I think they are out of this world!!!



Aliens are not Demons, they are Angels, some are fallen, some are not. Demons are disembodied spirits, which have to body snatch to have a physical form. Angels don't need to body snatch, because they already have a physical form. Demons are the spirits of the Nephilim. In other words, the spirits of the hybrid offspring, who can't be resurrected into their own physical bodies.



posted on Mar, 24 2006 @ 03:00 PM
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There are some interesting elements of Sumerian beliefs in the old testament. Have you read translations of ancient Sumerian beliefs?

Many people who read the Old Testament and the Sumerian Clay Tablets wonder what happened to the Giants, and all the El*.

Ezekiel just blows my mind every time I read it. But when i comes to Bible readings, I am an outsider. I'm glad, though.

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posted on Mar, 24 2006 @ 05:53 PM
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The sons of God are merely those with Christ conciousness...
They appeared to have super-powers and had control of matter because they were utilizing the full potential of their instruments (the human body)
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Now, the sons of god were so because of their positive conciousness.
When the flood happened it created a negative in their positive neural net, now associating everything with negativity, like installing doubt as a virus program over the positive neural net...

Jesus came and showed us the defeat of water by becoming baptized and walking on water.

What happened after the flood was a societal depression among the sons of god, they strayed from christ conciousness because they believed God was respondsible, not understanding God.
When the course of humanity becomes paused or stuck on something that is neither educational nor evolutionary the collective creates its own solution, its own revolution/evolution, hence the flood, a baptizing of thought or a reappraisal of priorities, the sons of god were obsessed with women, they were slaves to their carnal self and they required a wake-up call....



posted on Mar, 24 2006 @ 11:23 PM
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The most plausible explanation for the passage is the 'giants' are the great Aryan migrations circa 5,000 BC. Due to natural climate change northern Europe could no longer support the large population it once had, and large numbers started heading south. The migrating northern Europeans were on average taller than the native semitic tribes. Thus they became 'giants' in the legends. The accounts of the migration and assimilation lived on in folklore and later became incorporated in the Hebrew traditions. The Hebrews adopted many myths and folktales from neighboring cultures and adapted them to their own beliefs and culture as morality fables, and later they became incorporated into the Old Testament.



posted on Mar, 24 2006 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by dave_54
The most plausible explanation for the passage is the 'giants' are the great Aryan migrations circa 5,000 BC. Due to natural climate change northern Europe could no longer support the large population it once had, and large numbers started heading south. The migrating northern Europeans were on average taller than the native semitic tribes. Thus they became 'giants' in the legends. The accounts of the migration and assimilation lived on in folklore and later became incorporated in the Hebrew traditions. The Hebrews adopted many myths and folktales from neighboring cultures and adapted them to their own beliefs and culture as morality fables, and later they became incorporated into the Old Testament.


Have you read the Vedas? The aryan giants, as you call them, were hybrids.
They were cruel, inhuman, and had a taste for human flesh and blood. They believed in human sacrifice and were almost completely homosexual. They simply hated human women. Their traditions, which are still practiced in various parts of India, have rendered entire districts completely devoid of females of any age. When it says they came down out of the "mountains", they mean, they came down out of the pyramids, ziggurats and other such temples.



posted on Mar, 25 2006 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by dnero6911
The sons of God are merely those with Christ conciousness...



Originally posted by dave_54
The most plausible explanation for the passage is the 'giants' are the great Aryan migrations circa 5,000 BC.


Well the problem with these type of theories is that they fail to hold an water when compared to other writings. By way of example:


Flavius Josephus - Antiquities of the Jews

CHAPTER 3.
CONCERNING THE FLOOD; AND AFTER WHAT MANNER NOAH WAS SAVED IN AN ARK, WITH HIS KINDRED, AND AFTERWARDS DWELT IN THE PLAIN OF SHINAR,

NOW this posterity of Seth continued to esteem God as the Lord of the universe, and to have an entire regard to virtue, for seven generations; but in process of time they were perverted, and forsook the practices of their forefathers; and did neither pay those honors to God which were appointed them, nor had they any concern to do justice towards men. But for what degree of zeal they had formerly shown for virtue, they now showed by their actions a double degree of wickedness, whereby they made God to be their enemy. For many angels (11) of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength; for the tradition is, that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants. But Noah was very uneasy at what they did; and being displeased at their conduct, persuaded them to change their dispositions and their acts for the better: but seeing they did not yield to him, but were slaves to their wicked pleasures, he was afraid they would kill him, together with his wife and children, and those they had married; so he departed out of that land.


(11) This notion, that the fallen angels were, in some sense, the fathers of the old giants, was the constant opinion of antiquity.


As a matter of fact almost the entire Psudopigraphial book of Enoch is about this incident, and is even mentioned in the Bible:



Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.


There it is, right from the Bible, they are Angles that left their first estate to fornicate with women…

Here is a link with many more quotes, and sources, many ancient, on the topic of the “Sons of God” or watchers:

Earth-History


It is arguable if there is a relationship between Aliens and Angels/Watchers/Nephilim, but there is defiantly a relationship between these stories and Greek Mythology.



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posted on Mar, 25 2006 @ 01:39 AM
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Yes and they weren't interested in human females because they thought we were pretty to look at. They used human women to give birth to and advance their own hybrids, and then it was buh bye ladies. Can't have human women around to give birth to more lowly and pesky humans. They believed that they were evolved, advanced, better than humans, thusly Hitler's interest in the whole aryan superiority theology.

Have you ever noticed how many of the religions from that area are extremely anti-female? That's usually a symptom of infiltration of the communities by the false religions of the fallen angels. It's also a symptom if the community is highly homosexual or lesbian. The two things go hand in hand because the push was to eliminate the creation of more humans (which naturally happens when heteros get together).



posted on Mar, 25 2006 @ 02:33 AM
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Examples of ancient cultures that show signs of infestation of the nephilim hybrids and/or the religions of the fallen angels:

1. Ancient Greece

In ancient Greece it was most socially acceptable for men to engage in what is known as "pederasty", than to enjoy sexual intercourse with a female. He was expected to marry and give birth to more children, but the tradition of man-boy love was carried down from the ancient past, where human women were seen as only useful as the carriers of children.

Here's an excerpt on pederasty:

The Greek male was expected not only to marry and raise children, but also to be available for friendship and love with worthy youths, not to the exclusion of marriage but as its necessary complement. Thus his destined path through the garden of love would begin some time in adolescence when he was courted by many men and would choose one to be his lover. It would then continue in early adulthood with his own courting and winning the love of a deserving youth, and then it would expand to include taking a wife and having children of his own. (Of course there were countless variations on this theme, some noble and others sordid, just as it is with us today in our love life.) This variety of life was reflected in the ‘deep well of time’, the ancient sacred myths on which were based the archetypes of human life and self-knowledge.
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The sad truth is, men and male children were so highly valued over female children and women in general, in ancient Greece, that the ratio of males to females was on the scale of horrific.

From Answers.com:

In the Greece of 200 B.C., the murder of female infants was so common that among 6,000 families living in Delphi no more than 1 % had two daughters.

From Gendercide Watch:

Among 79 families, nearly as many had one child as two. Among all there were only 28 daughters to 118 sons.

This tradition of pederasty was carried over into ancient Rome, where it was inadventently or perhaps deliberately, introduced into the Roman Catholic Empire's hierarchical structure: Men over here, and women over there, and never the twain should meet. It also goes a long way in explaining why many Roman Catholic priests are being busted today for pederasty type activities. The altar boy becomes similar to the the young male apprentice of the ancient Grecian adult male. The practice never stopped. It's been going on for the last 2000 years in the RCC.

2. In Ancient India:

Here's the scary part of all this. The increase in female gendercide and rampant homosexuality is on the rise again, across the board, not just in places like India. Here's their shocking statistics:

According to census statistics, "From 972 females for every 1,000 males in 1901 ... the gender imbalance has tilted to 929 females per 1,000 males. ... In the nearly 300 poor hamlets of the Usilampatti area of Tamil Nadu [state], as many as 196 girls died under suspicious circumstances [in 1993] ... Some were fed dry, unhulled rice that punctured their windpipes, or were made to swallow poisonous powdered fertilizer. Others were smothered with a wet towel, strangled or allowed to starve to death."

[...]

"A report from Bombay in 1984 on abortions after prenatal sex determination stated that 7,999 out of 8,000 of the aborted fetuses were females.

In the time of the Vedas, so many female infants, children and women, were killed, that the men began to have wars over the remaining women. Because like it or not, if they wanted someone to wash their clothes and give birth to their progeny, they'd be needing a female (at least until they figured out how to make children without the need of a uterus). Of course, the only ones with the remaining chicks, were the Brahmin (Aryan hybrids) overlords, who would use 'em and lose 'em in keeping with the fine traditions of the Anunnaki of ante-diluvian times.

Here's an excerpt from an article on the subject of the Vedic connection to female infanticide in India:

Genocide of Women in Hinduism
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Sita Agarwal

The Vedas prescribe an intense hatred for women, and female children were considered highly undesirable in the nomadic Aryan patriarchal view. Indeed, so deep-rooted was the desire for male children that the Vedas prescribe numerous prayers for male offspring :


Atharva Veda.6.2.3 : " Let a female child be born somewhere else; here, let a male child be born."
[ Ath.Ved.VI.2.3 ] [ cf. Peri ]

The following verse, from the `sacred' Vedas of the `noble' faith of Hinduism, allows the practice, and takes it for granted as a normal practice in Vedic religion :

Taittirya Samhita VI.5.10.3 : " Hence they [ Aryans ] reject a female child when born, and take up a male."
< Sans. " Tasmat striyam jatam parasyanti ut pumamsam haranti " >

[ Taitt.Samh.VI.5.10.3 ] [ Muir I 26 ]

These are the `wonderful' truths about the `most spiritual' religion of Hinduism. The inhuman Hindu female infanticide is not due to any `corruption', but is fully sanctioned by the core of Hindu religious scriptures - the Vedas.

The manner in which the bigoted Brahmins prescribed death for female infants is especially heart-rending. Often, the parents would be forced to cut up the child and then feed the flesh to animals. Othertimes, the child would be smothered by the midwife. Vivekananda himself refers to a painting showing a Hindu woman throwing her children into the Ganges crocodiles which was widely distributed in the West. The `brave' Rajputs would often have to throw up the baby girl, and chop her up with uns
heathed swords as she fell. Rajputs considered it brave to kill their own female children ! No wonder Sanskrit, the language of the `learned' Brahmanas, has not even a single word for chivalry or virtue !


Nor has it stopped here. The Brahmins have perverted modern technology to develop a new variety of female infanticide, namely female foeticide, which is now spreading rapidly in Brahmin-Occupied India. In Tamil Nadu it is now resorted to, in addition to the time-tested methods of starvation, burial of live children and suffocation [ Tam ]. The latter methods appear natural and thus allow the mother to circumvent the law, whilst the more new-fangled hi-tech methods are technically illegal. These laws on paper are the result of Ambedkar's law-making : the Brahmins opposed any legislation against female infanticide.

In the neo-Brahminist Government of India, the genocide of women continues at full pace. Fully one-tenth of each generation of females is exterminated due to Hindu laws.

www.dalitstan.org...
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3. Ancient China

For some time, the chinese also practiced this sex selection. It got so bad, during the reign of the Chinese Empire, that soon there were roaming gangs of men who had no possible means of procuring a wife. There were simply no women. This inevitably lead to the downfall of the Chinese empire, as the roaming gangs of men, turned into roaming armies of men, with oodles of testosterone to employ in the game of death and war, rather in the game of life.

Today, they are right back to the same spot. The statistics state that by 2010, there will be millions of chinese men without female companionship, due to the elimination of female fetuses (see China's one child policy).
The excuse is over population forced their hand. Something to the tune of 150 MILLION female children and female unborn children, have been killed since the beginning of their one child policy.







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posted on Mar, 25 2006 @ 03:04 AM
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Originally posted by undo

Have you read the Vedas? The aryan giants, as you call them, were hybrids.
They were cruel, inhuman, and had a taste for human flesh and blood. They believed in human sacrifice and were almost completely homosexual. They simply hated human women. Their traditions, which are still practiced in various parts of India, have rendered entire districts completely devoid of females of any age. When it says they came down out of the "mountains", they mean, they came down out of the pyramids, ziggurats and other such temples.


undo,

It's quite possible that these people could be the Druids, as history has shown that they sacrificed people, as well as were related to the other barbaric tribes of the North. I don't know about the homosexuality part, but as for the other practices of the nortic peoples, these sound very similar. I could be wrong, and if I am, please prove me so.

TheBorg



posted on Mar, 25 2006 @ 03:17 AM
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Actually, several of the ancient cultures would seem to fit because the infiltration of the fallen ones was global.

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posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by undo
Examples of ancient cultures that show signs of infestation of the nephilim hybrids and/or the religions of the fallen angels:
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Excellent post! I would like to point out the important difference between pederasty, which literally means 'a love of youth', and carries the connotation of sex with post pubescent teenagers, and pedophilia which is attraction to and sex with prepubescent children. It was the former which occurred in ancient Greece, and the latter which currently infects the church of Rome, and our society at large.

The problem is certainly spiritual in nature and reminds us that we fight not against flesh and blood but against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 01:59 AM
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resistor,

you might find it interesting to note that among the other anti-female Vedic customs, is the practice of eating the daughter-in-law, literally. How this works out is pretty insane. A new daugther-in-law to be, has to provide a dowry, which her parents apparently give to her new husband-to-be's family. The problem is, the new husband's family can, at any time before the marriage is consummated, up the amount of the dowry. If the family of the bride to be can't pay, the new husband's family, has the right to kill and dismember of the bride-to-be, and eat her in a sacred ritual, the name of which I forget at the moment. So if you, as a male suitor, wanted to eek out your revenge on some unwitting female, you could seek her hand in marriage, [an act she can't refuse] and then have your parents require a dowry that is entirely outside the means of her family to pay.

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posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 03:46 AM
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(just thought I'd point out, that considering the above post, that it seems rather uncharacteristic of humans to want to deliberately eat their prospective family members. this custom as provided by the brahmin, sounds suspiciously like the stories about the anunnaki offspring, the "giants", eating people. it smacks of the fallen ones and nephilim, who have a history of eating human flesh. what better way to provide the necessary farm for human flesh than to enact religious laws in which the least likely members of the human race to be able to protect themselves, become dinner by religious writ, namely young females. some of these brides to be were and are no more than 12 or 14 years of age, mind you. so not only is the ritual to provide the hybrids a feast automatically provided in their religious customs, but it's set up to provide young, fairly fresh "meat." the fact is has gotten very little press and still goes on today, should worry you. )



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 04:59 PM
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We are all son's of god/god's children.

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posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 05:54 PM
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surely we all have a chance to become God's children again... but look at this excerpt from Luke 3:21 to 3:22:

Now when all the people were baptized, Jesus was also baptized, and while He was praying, heaven was opened,
and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased."



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