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Originally posted by thermopolis
OMG.........NO...many, many VC were forced at gunpoint fo join and fight. Many VC leaders were from the north regular army.
So just how many hour could have been saved in the original invasion? We beat the heck out of the Iraqi army way, way faster than the media 'experts' could understand. The underestimation was on OUTSIDE islamo-terrorist action. Just as the wolverines in germany up to 10 years after WWII.
Iraq must succeed, we must have their 90 divisions for support of the attack on Iran. Same for India, pakistan, and afganistan.
The media HYPE about WMD's or no WMD's is exactly the fantacy dribble the mullahs need to stall until they get the nukes they want.
Originally posted by vuoto
It is estimated that there are less than 1 thousand Al Queda in Iraq. Some American military and intelligence officers put the estimate closer to 500. We have over 150,000 American troops in Iraq. 2300+ Americans have died in Iraq, but THERE ARE MORE AL QAEDA THERE TODAY THAN THERE WERE IN 2002!
So, we have a thread here where a patriotic American blames the media. It's THE MEDIA's fault that the world hates America. It's THE MEDIA that's caused our country to become a debtor nation. It's THE MEDIA that's caused the deaths of more than 2300 Americans and the permanent disfigurement of tens of thousands more.
Anyone who can look at the state of the union, 2006, and blame the media should be ashamed of themselves. It can't be said any other way.
Originally posted by Barcs
Modern day warfare is much different than it used to be. Significantly because of the media. The coverage is incredible (not to be confused with credible hehe). We also have geneva conventions, so it's more humane. Sure, it doesn't completely annihilate this "civilian's are expendible" mentality, but it sure as hell helps.
Originally posted by vuoto
Some people would rather not know the truth. For many, knowing what's really happening the world is not as important as having his own opinions reinforced. Since there's agreement among everyone who knows anything about Iraq that the war has been a colossal failure, was started based on a pack of lies, and is bankrupting America, but some folks want so badly to believe the President when he tells us that we're winning, it's a righteous cause, and the people of Iraq are showering American soldiers with flowers, and candy, and thanks.
If anything, the media in America is so afriad of backlash from their corporate masters that they dare not tell the real truth about Iraq and the disaster that the president has created. Remember, reporters in Iraq are limited to going to places and seeing things that the military allows. Unlike Viet Nam, where members of the media could seek out the truth themselves, the media in Iraq is shown only what the administration wants them to see. If the best they have to show is a horrible failure, can you imagine how much worse the truth must be?
Originally posted by Agent47
..... There are more AL Qaeda in Iraq, but there are also more bridges, schools, working water systems, and oh yeah ELECTIONS. The rise in Al Qaeda can be accredited to dedicated terrorists using places like the Syrian border (Syria doesn't give a rats ass who is using their border to run into Iraq).
Originally posted by Darkmind
Forced at gunpoint? Please do some research before you say anything as ridiculous as that. Land reform was a major factor behind VC recruitment and was exploited by the Communists. Here's a link to a quite good website that mentions it about a third of the way down the page - www.rdiland.org...
Look it up aywhere else!
Originally posted by thermopolisAid and comfort to the enemy by helping glorify.
Originally posted by toasted
the media is controlled by a few
a condition that SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED to happen for ANY REASON
unless that can somehow be rectifed, and put back into balance , like it should be