posted on Mar, 22 2006 @ 08:36 AM
Just to specify some things...
Originally posted by northwolf
G3 and Fal are completely different weapons, with different oparting principles:
Fal is Gas operated, tilting breechblock
G3 is Roller-delayed blowback
Nothing to add
CETEME was designed by ex-Mauser engineers who fled germany after ww2 (same ones responsible for STG44, MG42)
No they didnt "flee" Germany. The head of the later development team, Ludwig Vorgrimler, continued to work in Oberndorf at the company Manurhin with
special permission by the french authorities (Oberndorf, where Hk and the new Mauserwerke are situated today, is in the former French Occupation
zone). Later he went to Spain to develop a new rifle for the spanish army at CETME (which actually isnt a company, its a spanish governmental design
and experimental institution).
But those were not the ones that also had developed the Stgw.44 (a cross-breed of prototypes by Haenel and Walther) and the MG42 (developed by
Grossfusswerke, actually not a weapon company, but specialized in mass production). The CETME rifle is built upon the prototype Stgw.45(M)
which was a Vorgrimler project at Mauserwerke.
Later on HK bought the license from CETEME, improved it and named the product G3.
To be exact, the license was bought by the german government, actually not from CETME itself (as I said earlier this is not a "company") but from
the dutch NWM (Nederlandsche Wapen-En Munitiefabriek) which handled european sales. The license could only be obtained because Germany promised to
obtain all 20mm munition from NWM, too.
The license then was given to Hk (then a producer of sewing machine and machinery parts) and Rheinmetall and initial production rifles had "CETME"
stamped on them and were given the designation "G2" (as opposed to the FN Fal which was dubbed "G1" back then - actually among the first rifles
for German authorities were some M1 Garands and M1918 Bar´s). Rheinmetall stopped manufacturing to concentrate on the MG3 and their larger guns and
cannons, and Hk THEN developed the CETME further to the G3 standard. The CETME rifle in turn adopted several of the improved G3 features in the later
In the end I guess the current FN Herstal bosses curse the insulting letter of refusal of then-Director-General of Fabrique Nationale, Rene Laloux, to
license build the Fal, as subsequently Hk took away so many market shares since then with the G3 and following products...
[edit on 22/3/2006 by Lonestar24]