How do I explain Weises actions then?
I am not sure that Weise is actually guilty of the crime. What exactly is the evidence against him? The whole investigation is secret. We know
almost nothing except what the gub'mint has decided to release. If Weise was involved as an active shooter, I would say mind control was a likely
"Lately I've been having some really strange dream's, they seem very realistic and filled with colour and sound's, they really are more realistic
than dream's from like last month, but a few night's ago I had this dream where I saw this very evil, very creepy canine's face coming toward's
me, and I heard someone say "shoot," either way everything went black and I could feel my whole body jerking and shaking, and while this was
happening I could hear very loud and very distinct gunshot's, mostly machine gun fire... I found it very weird and woke up immediately after feeling
a little disoriented..."
"I feel a strong connection to the 1930s and Nazi Germany, I used to have small "clips" (I just call them that, because they were really short, but
really detailed), in my head as a kid and still do have them now and then, a few of them were of parades and combat scenarios... My mom used to tell
me I used to ask her "remember when I died?"
"You've got to be able to move quickly if you're running from Feds or special ops."
--Jeff Weise (poor Jeff, he couldn't run fast enough)
Interestingly, most of the surviving school shooters themselves can't explain their own actions:
Barry Loukaitus, 14, Moses Lake, WA, Frontier Jr H.S., 2-2-96, 3 dead, 1 wounded
Mom leaned on him for emotional support,
He was upset about the pending divorce of his parents,
Father says he didn't talk to him enough,
Family has history of manic depression(no drugs, though),
He was obsessed by violent pop culture
[in other words, they haven't a clue]
--"There are things in life we're never going to understand, and this case is one of those..."--His Attorney
[but there is always a motive, councilor]
Jillian Robbins, Penn State U, State College, PA, 9-17-96, 1 dead, 1 wounded
--when she was arrested, she answered repeatedly, "I don't know." when asked why she brought school violence back to PSU.
Luke Woodham, 16, and Grant Boyette, 19, Pearl, MS, Pearl H.S., 10-1-97
"...(I) fought with myself because I didn't want to do any of it." [Excuse me???]
Michael Carneal, Paducah, KY, Heath H.S., 12-1-97, 3 dead, 5 wounded
Carneal's home room teacher reported that Carneal did not seem to recognize what he had done. When ask why he did it, he said he didn't know.
Mitchel Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, Jonesboro, AS, Westside Middle School, 3-24-98, 5 dead
--"Since that day, when the boys have been asked the same question(why did they shot), they appeared not to be able to give an answer." Johnson: "I
really thought that no one would actually be hurt."
Andrew Wurst, 14, Edinborough, PA, 4-24-98 Parker Middle School(at off-campus school dance); 1 dead, 3 wounded
.....As the police got to know more about Andrew's friends, they began to wonder if one of them was a 'puppet master' who may have manipulated
Andrew into using the gun or at least encouraged him."
--"Why did he do it? Andrew doesn't know, ...saying he had no reason of kill the teacher." "...no one...that evening could recall anything that
might explain what happened. Andrew himself has no explanation."
Kip Kinkel, Springfield, OR, Thurston High School, 5-22-98, 1 dead, 7 seriously wounded
--In police interview he repeated "over and over" that "I had no choice." "I don't know what's wrong with me.... My head just doesn't work
Q: But you didn't have any intent yesterday... of hurting anybody. Is that correct?
A: Right "I couldn't, I couldn't. I had no other choice God."
Q: Why did you go to school and start shooting people?
A: I had to. I had no other choice. I couldn't do anything else.
Taber, Alberta 4-27-99 W.R. Myers HS 1 dead, 1 wounded
In a signed police statement, the boy later said: "I have no particular reason for shooting the boys that I did. I don't know who any of them
T.J. Solomon, 15, Conyers, GA, 5-20-99 Heritage High, 6 wounded
--Upon handing the gun over(a teacher had convinced T.J. not to kill himself--the barrel was in his mouth)he started crying hysterically and said
repeatedly "I don't know why I did this."
--"I did this because, well, I'm not sure..... Ever since the shooting at Columbine in Colorado all I've been able to think about is doing
"One big question I leave behind for you to find is why," said the note, read by Nicholson during a juvenile court hearing for Solomon.
Seth Trickey, 13, Fort Gibson, OK, 12-6-99, 4 wounded
--"He said 'I don't know' when asked why he did it."
Charles 'Andy' Williams, Santana HS, March 2001, San Diego County (2 dead, 13 wounded)
Williams was interrogated by detectives for about an hour after his arrest, and while prosecutor Anton declined to detail what he said, she indicated
the statements may not explain why he opened fire. "It seems like everyone assumes the motive can be explained through the statements made by this
defendant," she said. Those looking for such an explanation "will not get that."
"Typically--a young adult leads the group. The followers are mostly 14 to 18. We have to question the motivation of the adults. Is it just a game or
something more serious.....is it mind-control?"
-Det. Donald White, Phoenix PD
--"And so I'm thinking 'My God, where are they coming up with this?' " from Homicide Investigator Eklund(Pearl, MS)
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