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Another thing I dont understand is that why is the cross, a symbol of death, taken as a symbol for the faith ? What would have happened if Christ was nailed on a circle or a just staked on a big pole in the ground ? Would these become our symbols ? They say it was Christ's sacrifice okay I get that then why not take some other form of his sacrifice ? Because to claim the cross would also mean the thousands upon thousands of other including criminals, slaves etc who were also crucified as people of his order. The symbol just seems to be against what he taught, compassion, love etc. Also I would think that his teaching reflect more on the value of life than death and thus the cross is not a good example.
Originally posted by GREGNOW
Sorry, i have been busy ans just getting here again.
anyway, I pointed some things out to you and you really did not come up with any kind of valid answers to what i said.
FACT is the bible as we know it was a collection or "canon" of books that was officially put together in 300 AD by Constantine with the concil of Nicea.
Now, there were also books not included in the bible by the concil and today we refer to them as the "Gnostic books".
The Roman church is FULL of controversy and murder, the inquistion, and the list goes on.
i found out that the catholic church decided what books would be in the bible, and i have never read the da vinci code
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
The Bible is a book of factual truth. It has stood against all attempts to disprove it.
Then Atheism is fact, too. For it has stood against all attempts to disprove it.
In fact, if your statement is true, then all religions and belief systems in the world are facts, because they have stood against all attempts to disprove them.
Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Sun Matrix - don't forget that they went after JEWS as well during the Inquisition! What a bunch of Control Freaks - thats the RCC for ya!
P.S. Also the Vatican was Silent during Nazi Germany's Holocaust of the Jews in WWII!
[edit on 1-5-2006 by Seraphim_Serpente]
but what is the PROOF that jesus was the messiah (according to judaic tradition is the assumption, right?) and how can you back it up?
Psalms 118:19 Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD: 20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter. 21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation. 22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner
Then Atheism is fact, too. For it has stood against all attempts to disprove it. In fact, if your statement is true, then all religions and belief systems in the world are facts, because they have stood against all attempts to disprove them.
Originally posted by StarkMan
Can you prove Aliens don't have sex with sheep who then explode? SO it must be true!!!
Christians, so easy to make fun of it almost makes it no fun to make fun of them. At least with cripples you have to try to make it funny and not disturbing, but Christians? To easy...