Originally posted by david_brent
Originally posted by benevolent tyrant
Originally posted by david_brent
ever heard of a sunburn anit-ship missile? described as the most lethal missile in the world today. nothing the usa has got can stop one of these
babies, should any superior american carrier battlegroups come within its 100mile range, good bye battlegroup.
Excuse me but the U.S. carrier battle groups will simply stay outside of this missilles 100 mile range. This might sound simplistic but,
nevertheless, the "sunburn anti-ship missile" is easily thwarted. As far as the U.S. goes, the Americans have a variety of weapons whose range is
much, much further and, unlike some of the newly developed Iranian weapon systems, the American weapon systems have been tested in battle.
Regardless, I hope that the U.S. does not attack Iran. I hope and pray that there is no war in Iran. And I pray that cooler heads prevail -- on both
sides -- so that diplomacy does not break down but, instead, works towards resolution. Perhaps if both sides could drop their respective
nationalistic fervor and accept that war is not the answer. Sabre rattling and militaristic intimidation is not an avenue that would really benefit
either side. What would help is for Iran to be honest in their nuclear intent.
On the American side, perhaps the U.S. could work toward assisting the Iraniians in developing a peaceful nuclear program ..... but isn't this a
difficult pill to swallow? After all, Iran's leadership did publicly announce that they intended to destroy the state of Israel.
of course you could just stay out of the 100 mile range, but that would mean you couldnt even be able to enter the persian gulf , to enter or leave
the gulf you would have to go thru the strait of hormuz which is only about 45 miles wide. is'nt there american warships in the gulf right now?. And
what does Israel have to do with anything, why should the west die for israel?. Israel has a massive stockpile of nukes, and isnt part of any
international treaty, why is that?
I point out that U.S. ships wouldn't necessarily have to be in the Persian Gulf to strike at Iran. The U.S. could readily attack Iran, with
impunity, from far off. The U.S. could launch attacks from carrier groups, from land bases -- even from the U.S. mainland.
As for American ships in the Gulf, these ships have been patrolling and intercepting ships that could possibly be carrying "contraband" weapons.
These ships, for the most part, are destroyers and even U.S. Coast Guard cutters which have been on station in the Gulf along with a myriad of
military vessels from a number of countries. Granted, these ships would be vulnerable to the new Iranian anti-ship missiles but, as been mentioned
repeatedly, a war with Iran would not be the comparative "cakewalk" that the "active war" with Iraq had been. Losses would be expected but not
the proposed loss of a Carrier Battle Group.
In addition, we are not taking into account the devastating pounding that Iranian military bases, infrastructure and "command and control"
establishments would take from American Air power and missile forces. While individual units would survive, Iran's ability to make a concerted
effort to attack Gulf shipping and military vessels would be surely hampered or even negated.
The greatest threat that Iran would pose would be against oil tankers but, one must consider that every tanker sunk would be an economic loss that
Iran directly would sustain. Keep in mind that American oil supplies are not entirely dependent upon the Middle East. Yes, the American economy
would suffer but, then, we are talking about war. The U.S. economy suffered during WWI and WWII and, nevertheless, the U.S. survived and rebounded.
If anything, this would probably propel U.S. industry to research and develop alternative energy sources with greater urgency.
As for Israel.... Yes, I agree that Israel has never been a part of the world community's control of nuclear weapons. But, at the same time, Israel
has never acknowledged possession of nuclear weapons either. It is merely conjecture that Israel has nuclear weapons. Personally, I believe that
Israel does, indeed, have nuclear weapons but I would like to point out that Israel has never openly threatened any other nation with annihilation as
And why would the U.S. go to war to protect Israel? That's an easy question to answer. The U.S. would go to war to protect Great Britain, Germany,
France, etc. for the very same reason that the U.S. would got to war to protect Israel. Israel is a "friend" and, of course, the U.S. has treaties
with Israel. It is as simple as that. Heretofore, the threat of American power has helped Israel to survive as a state against the overwhelming
numbers that are poised to attack and destroy Israel as a state and against the millions of simple common citizens of Israel.