I challenge you...

I ask this:

Is faith not a personal journey and/or experience of self-decided
belief in and of hope as an end to the means to its applications,
by an individual as per desired outcome of an unknown?

Is anyone aware that every thing they allow topics to dictate
their opinions and they choose their interests? If so is anyone
aware that to oppress or 'push' tangible imaginings as persuasion
such as using hell to scare the 'faithless' (I still don't know a
one who can keenly know if another is as faithless or not) into
dogmatic submission rather than share the common sense and
rational logic a more 'cival' society should see of dogma's intent?

Anyone who can challenge the fact that (unless they are openly
claiming absolution in knowledge thereof...) it is pointless to
argue as for to find solution in a topic that BY ITS NATURE, IS NOT
AND NEVER HAS BEEN OPEN FOR DEBATE?

I have an absolute faith in God. I also know where I stand:
I don't use an unproveable subject for the basis of the teachings
of scripture to others. I use common sense rationale that is
apparent to another or at least reasonable to stand behind.
It is a cop-out to say after a personal hypothesis or idea 'because
of God.' Such statements are only agreed upon by others of the same faith.

How is this spreading the 'Christian' or other ways of life?

***Is it always to be do as I say not as I do with fundamental
leaderships? I challenge anyone to avoid sin, try always to apply
the golden rule and live as a righteous being. Put up or shut up!

I challenge you whoever you may be, to be as you want to be received by others! Strength is abolishing vice and living free.
I challenge you to try it before accusing others of your own imperfections.

P.S. I don't make these statements for myself, so, don't bother
challenging me with discussion as I don't care what you have to
say in regards to this post. My challenge is to you, FOR REAL! So,
if you cannot on your own even try as I suggest, you must know
unto self that you are too weak to do so. By merely offering a
defensive or retaliatory statement is only done by those who are
not capable of the challenge, for a person secure in their faith and
in agreement by same goals, would not need to take the time to
attack or acquaint themselves with that which they already knew.
Besides, YOU KNOW in truth, inside yourself whether you REALLY
can or have done as such regarding personally motivated evolution as per why I cannot care about retorts. You live in your head I live in mine. Neither can know AS the other, so in ignorance please waste none of my time. It is your life, I just really care about us all and offer advice by living my beliefs not
lying to myself about them.




MY PHILOSOPHY DOES NOT REQUIRE ANYONE BELIEVE ME.

I agree with you fully. I think that it is sad but true, that fundamentalists find personal reflection to be terrifying.

When one examines his/her beliefs and where they emanate from, one risks acknowledging that their belief is based on the influence of others and the ideals perpetuated by their particular religion. If one realizes that what he believes is not his own understanding, but merely the indoctrination of others, then he must begin to find what he believes on his own. If he then finds that his beliefs vary from the beliefs of those he has previously gone to for insight, then he must seek his answers alone. This one thought is enough for MANY "Christians" I've known to follow along with their usual program. Not really understanding or believing one's stated philosophy is what causes the hypocritical "do as I say not as I do" lifestyles that are so predominate in religions.

One should never attempt to "condemn" or "fix" another's personal philosophy, especially when they can't even study or honestly justify their own. The catch is that, once you do find truth, it's rarely something that can be communicated with words, and, at least for me, ceases to be something I feel the need to defend to others.

Although I do enjoy a philosophical debate to keep me true and for my own introspection and education.

Very few realise that their thoughts are not their own thoughts truly,but conditioned responses from their upbringing and the influences of society,which really only serve as a control mechanism.
I have absolute faith in God,I therefore need no faith in myself.
I'm not perfect,but I try,and am always learning from my efforts.
Life is quite meaningless.

[Edited on 9-10-2003 by uNBaLaNCeD]

One point in Christian Scriptures that the REligious Hierarchy are loathe to admit...That *everyone* this side of Jesus is doomed to Hell because he was the only one to live a sinless life.

Yet they still try to use the *threat* of Hell to make people "behave" when they already *know* that such "behavior" is impossible.

Living as good of a life as you can, asking for God's forgiveness & beliving that Jesus sacrificed himself for *you* & everyone else is the only way to reduce your time in Hell...But only Jesus himself went to God *without* spending any time in Hell; The scriptures say that Jesus spent 3 days in Sheol before ressurrecting, not Hell.

what does the red ufo mean...
and why are us enlightened ones even debating such issues...
it is apparent what is going on, now only time will tell our destination...

Which god are you talking about Lucifer?

Also Christ was perfect because he came from 5d which he elevated to from many lives on this earth due to karmic inbalance like the rest of us.

global awareness topic...

and the 3rd density beings persecuted him for it...

thus the question...

are 4th density beings wrong for persecuting us...

sage,

there are two types of 4d entities,

service to self and service to others.

service to self use those below them to exist thus they are wrong because they use others.

but all in 3d use others to some degree but they have a choice to make when they ascend to 4d, service to others or service to self. One is a positive choice the other is not.

do you think any invation of assistance to the global community is a ploy by sts 4d beings...
yet and still i have faith...

and the disclosure of other beings has to come on a global scale...