Theory: Earth, Moon and other celestial bodies growing?!?, page 1
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reply posted on 17-3-2006 @ 04:39 AM by benevolent tyrant
I wouldn't dismiss Neals' theory --- actually it's not a new theory -- out of hand. If you look at it in total, it's really quite comprehensive and it "simply" explains a lot of things. But, again, it's way too involved to try to attempt to describe his theory here. Visit Neal Adam's Growing Earth Theory to get a more comprehensive view of this theory.

Keep in mind that Neal Adams is practically a legend in the comic book world. He has utilized his talents to illustrate and animate his theory in a fashion which describes his theories in a way that few others could. Even if it's bogus, as a valid theory, it is amazing artwork and it does raise some interesting and valid questions.



reply posted on 17-3-2006 @ 05:23 AM by Stratrf_Rus
This theory is wrong:

Some reasons is -

1) North America and Europe were moving together at one time.

2) North America used to only consist of the shallow sea (now mid-west) and the eastern seaboard. The Sierra's and everything "West of the Rockies" formed through stages of volcanism. The latest being cascadia.

3) The oceans were never "very shallow".

4) India has moved considerably.

5) Paleomagnetism is consistent with a body of the size of Earth; not a body of changing size. This is probably the most hard core proof I can think of off the top of my head.

6) Africa used to be in the Artic regions.

7) We know the plates are currently moving anyway...there's no reason to assume that an expanding earth model is more correct.

8) The earth cannot become much more compressed than it already is...water especially is non-compressible.

I just don't understand how he can say that "This theory upsets too many apple carts" when Tectonics theory is very new; it was only accepted and given a name in the late 1960s or early 1970s when Paleomagnetism and various deep drillings could prove it's existence.

Gravity research proves there are subducting slabs.

In fact...it's very scary and "sad" to see some of the heat flow research which is able to trace ancient slabs; you see these vast ancient crusts now thousands of miles under the earth...decending to a literal oceanic crustal grave yard which surrounds the outer core.

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reply posted on 17-3-2006 @ 11:54 AM by Umbrax
Stratrf_Rus, I appreciate your input here, but your reasons for this theory to be wrong are all based on continental drift theory.


4) India has moved considerably.

According to continental drift theory, yes.

What are your comments on this clip?
www.continuitystudios.net...


8) The earth cannot become much more compressed than it already is...water especially is non-compressible.

That is assuming that water has always been here or has always been between continents. Perhaps (according to growing Earth theory) when the Earth was smaller the water was sitting on top of the land and then fell into the gaps that were caused by the Earth’s growth. Imagine Adam’s models with out water.
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reply posted on 25-4-2006 @ 06:43 PM by Yarium
Well I looked through them all, and I have to say this:

Creative, but that's really it.

The only real reason this looks appealing is because of the visual cues. In all respects, why do some areas of Mars, the Earth, or so on grow differently? Shouldn't it happen roughly even everywhere? However, it does not. That is a fundamental flaw. Now, for the moon and Europa we can say differently because it tried to explain it.

Next, why so sudden? According to his theory, with Pangea and all, we know that life existed around the time of Pangea - but the earth was already incredibly ancient by that point! If one extrapolates the time frames to do this, one winds up with a planet that is much too small.

Thirdly, what causes this expansion? I don't see that explained at all. This is a critical issue that would need to be thoroughly explained and then tested before planetary expansion could be taken seriously. If it is expanding, is this new mass? Or old mass? Problem is, we know pretty much that it can't be old mass (unless it was, as mentioned a sort of "crystilization" which wouldn't happen because of the intense heat).



In the end, I think that, unlike how he said "note this cannot be explained without planetary expansion", that it can be explained with another important note on Plate Tectonics - that there are MORE plates that we see! There are submersed plates as well (
en.wikipedia.org...lates_tect2_en.svg)

Since there are more plates, there more space. It's possible that Pangea, originally, simply had all the surface plates conjoined, and the submersed plates were joined elsewhere.

So, in the end, Neal Adams, sorry bud - but I don't think that's the answer to today's million dollar question.

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