ok not sure where to post this, but:-

with todays technology (allied forces) how long would it take to beat the nazis with (1945 technology)?

serious guesses people, it would take longer than 1 day but A LOT less than 6 years (which WW2 lasted).

Weeks, at most. And the length of it would be a nazi insurgency. We would destroy their entire fighting force within days with an overwhelming display of firepower (Cruise missles, Raptors, smart weapons, think destruction of the entire infrastructure). Not even the nazis would be able to withstand complete destruction of their industry within a week's time. Any ground battle would be similiar to Iraq war (1&2), except with hills. Some would survive and, as occupation took hold, would begin a guerilla resistance, perhaps.
Now my question.
Why ask?

[edit on 16-3-2006 by TheGoodDoctorFunk]

How 'bout near future technology? If you're interested read the Axis of Time trilogy(first two books have been released with the third coming out this year). It's by some aussie name John Birmingham, quite an interesting read actually.

I would think a single Modern (nuclear equiped) carrier group could win WW2 in a matter of a few months. The wholesale bombing of civilian targets was acceptable in WW2. The sheer shock of losing Berlin and other key Axis cities in a few days time to a power they wouldnt fully understand would quickly take the fight out of any power in WW2.

There was even a movie to that effect were a Modern Aircraft carrier was transported back in time to WW2. It was pretty crazy seeing Japanese Zeros go up against modern fighter planes. They did decided not to get invloved out of fear of changing history. I wish I could remember the name of that movie.

what a wierd thread. if ur asking how much technology has moved on then it has moved on a hell of a lot.

Justin

Yep it woulkdn't take long - in fact we'd have the whole thing sorted about 20 months before the US got 'round to trying to join in.

LOL @ strangerous, bit below the belt m8

@ everyone else, yeah it is a strange thread - no real relivence to it!!

me myself i like think of loads of strange stuff (i'm weird like that)

(space, god, militaries etc), as i'm sure many other people do on here or they wouldn't be on these top secret/conspiracy forums

but sure its good to know how far we've progressed in the last 70 years (which isn't too long in history if you think about it).

especially when you look back to jesus times (roman era)!! - warfare wasn't faught much different to 1000-1300 years in the future (see the film braveheart).

things are progressing rapidly.



[edit on 16-3-2006 by st3ve_o]

curious dont you have to take into contenxt that most of the weapons Tec
the US/Russia have come up with came from Nazi tec.

so in theory Germany would have the upperhand if they had acheived the goal of building/working on their tec
since the US/russia wouldnt have the nazi scincetists to work on their new toys

Originally posted by st3ve_o
LOL @ strangerous, bit below the belt m8

Last rattle of the empire old boy. World's gone to the dogs since we stopped running it (properly).

Toodle Pip Old Thing

Tally Ho!

Steve, you must understand that the Nazi's are no longer in political power as strong as their were during the World War II era, therefore they would not be able to win in a war with a myriad of nations. You must also ne aware that subsequent to the second world war, the United States, Britain, and Russia worked together in demilitarizing the entire Nazi army which resulted them in losing a large number of weaponry, personnel, and money in building up the army, and strengthening it. Thus making it usless today if it were to try and build it up again. The United States would not tolerate any build-up of any offensive weaponry from Germany and Japan.

But to go along with your imagination, if there were to be a World War II with this type of technology we have today, the war would not last nowhere near 6 years; try 6 weeks. Today, many of the superpower nations (i.e. United States, China, Russia, Britain, Canada) would start the use of missiles, nuclear weapons, etc in an event of a world war, and many countries would be demolished in a matter of weeks once it comes to a cease.

As for Russia and the United States, well what can you say? During the 1950s and 60s (via Cold War era), the Russians had enough weapons to destroy the world two-times over. As for the United States, it had enought to destroy the world ten-times over. Imagine what it's like today! So a war like that, would not last as long. You can only go but a few weeks before nations are tired of launching nuclear weapons at each other and getting blown to bits. By that time, the population of the world could go from 6 Billion to somewhere in between in the ten millions to the hundred millions.

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
There was even a movie to that effect were a Modern Aircraft carrier was transported back in time to WW2. It was pretty crazy seeing Japanese Zeros go up against modern fighter planes. They did decided not to get invloved out of fear of changing history. I wish I could remember the name of that movie.

The name of the movie was, "The Final Countdown."

Pretty well done for the time.

F-14's against Zero's was interesting as was the play on time shifting.

Nuff said, wouldn't want to ruin it for those who haven't seen it.


Also a book fwiw.

Weird but interesting movie, Seen it a few times it makes you want to be an F-14 Pilot!

It could be possible to beat the nazis sooner than 1945 with 21st technology, We would have ICBMs and laser guided missiles, Thermal Imaging n stuff like that.

Re Arm British tommys with kitted up M-4s, Miniguns n stuff and AH-64 Attack Choppers and other cool weapons.

Nuclear U-Boats, Carriers and F-22 Raptors, F-35 JSFs fighting the Battle of Britain!

What Else?

This would be fun! We would prevent the holocaust and put the third reich to shame in no time!

And the Allies having all this, The Germans wouldnt know what hit them!

Originally posted by bodrul
curious dont you have to take into contenxt that most of the weapons Tec
the US/Russia have come up with came from Nazi tec.

so in theory Germany would have the upperhand if they had acheived the goal of building/working on their tec
since the US/russia wouldnt have the nazi scincetists to work on their new toys

Nono.. the thread's all about the US with modern tech an d the nazis with.. well 1945 nazi tech..
lopsided comparision I would say..

Originally posted by Desert Dawg

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
There was even a movie to that effect were a Modern Aircraft carrier was transported back in time to WW2. It was pretty crazy seeing Japanese Zeros go up against modern fighter planes. They did decided not to get invloved out of fear of changing history. I wish I could remember the name of that movie.

The name of the movie was, "The Final Countdown."

Pretty well done for the time.

F-14's against Zero's was interesting as was the play on time shifting.

Nuff said, wouldn't want to ruin it for those who haven't seen it.


Also a book fwiw.

I remember this movie: Made to promote the new Nimitz class Air Craft Carrier...and in the movie they are all:

"What's the name of this...ship?" and they're all "The Nimitz" and the person asking the question said, "it's unbefitting to name a ship after a man that's still alive!"

Hah.

it would take 4 days max, USA launch 1 ICBM's at Germany, 2 days later or even 1 day Germany surrenders end of war.

Now if its not with nukes and they didnt exist then it would takes a few weeks to a month then end of war.

Originally posted by Desert Dawg

The name of the movie was, "The Final Countdown."

Also a book fwiw.

Ah that was the movie

There was another Movie like that with a different twist it had a US stealth fighter trying to use optical stealth technology used during the Philadelphia project. It went back in time though and landed in Nazi Germany with a modern nuke payload

The Nazis used it to nuke Washington D.C but destroyed the plane itself when in the blast because the under estimated the power of the bomb. The Nazi's were however able to use the threat of another such attack to win the war.

I think it was the sequel to the Philadelphia project movie

Originally posted by Daedalus3
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Nono.. the thread's all about the US with modern tech an d the nazis with.. well 1945 nazi tech..
lopsided comparision I would say..

No it's not! -It says allies - why do Yanks always assume it's always about the US?

There are other countries in the world and 'allies' means just that ie plural!


My point remains if it could be settled with nukes we'd do it after a day but actually france would have nuked Germany once tanks started popping out of the Ardennes.

Game over long before the US had started weighing up the cost and seeing if they wanted to join in.

The whole discussion is redundant anyway - Germany would never attempt to invade a nuclear France

i'd say it take a day. The amounts of nuclear warheads that the U.S. has is just overwhelming. The U.S. has enough nukes to destroy the world over 180 times.

Oh but of course if you are talking about conventional warfare then my guess is 7 to 8 months. It'd take this long and not 4 or 5 months because with this much tech, the allies will try to play it very conservative because they will know they will have the war easily won.

Originally posted by Daedalus3

Originally posted by bodrul
curious dont you have to take into contenxt that most of the weapons Tec
the US/Russia have come up with came from Nazi tec.

so in theory Germany would have the upperhand if they had acheived the goal of building/working on their tec
since the US/russia wouldnt have the nazi scincetists to work on their new toys

It's really all about the allies, if you may have missed the point there. My spiel still remains about this subject. Germany even today would not have the capability to even try ti even invade a country simply because they haven't the power to do such a thing. If there were the same exact weapons used in WW2 as we have today, again you would have several of these countries wiped off the map, and many would join the allies because they know who the superior force is; the United States.