Columbia

on the mention of aircrafts an stuff i dont think anything has been mentioned about the shuttle in columbia it obviously wasnt a natrual thing to happen and a bit of conspiracy going on there do you think??

I agree there is something rather strange about it

deffinately i cant remebr that much about it because it was such a while back but it wasnt your everyday thing anyone with ne info would be greatful

The thing i noticed was that it went out of the news awfully quickly, and besides they surivived for a while after communications went off so thats a little strange, it doesn't all add up

you know you are more then welcome to make a comment about it

They survived for 7 minutes. That is how long they took to fall from the height they had achieved. The astronauts were in contact during this time.

They died when they hit the sea. The bodies were recovered, and this was verified.

V sad.

If this is the extent of conversation on this topic, I think locking is in order...

I'm thinking of the wrong one, aren't I.

Lock, why?

there was wierd bits of wreckage found too like the full badge it just seem a bit wierd imean cos it set on fire so why would his full badge or full helmet still be in one piece

columbia was not a conspiracy. disasters do have dont you know. any disaster that happens you people think its a conspircay. please show me the evidence that its strange for an air plane to an accident.
maybe its a consperacy you are alive!!!

One thing I found particularly interesting (if not disturbing) on the Columbia disaster is the photographs that a California man took of the shuttle as it flew over on it's doomed re-entry.
Apparently the pictures show a bolt of lightning/plasma discharge or something similar right before the shuttle begins breaking up.
Link to San Francisco Chronicle article:

www.sfgate.com.../chronicle/archive/2003/02/02/MN221641.DTL&type=printable

sfgate.com.../c/a/2003/02/05/MN192153.DTL

This phenomenon could possibly be explained away as lightning - but common meteorological lightning is not known to be an issue at 400,000 ft.
In fact, nothing that could be called 'lightning' occurs beyond the troposphere, or however far a thunderstorm might poke into the stratosphere. However, there are certainly various high-altitude electrical phenomena.
I have considered the electrical phenomena known as sprites and blue jets but the destructive effects generated by such phenomena would be nil against a ceramic tiled space craft... even if one or two tiles were indeed damaged by falling styrofoam... (which i find highly improbable - if not laughably impossible)

What further complicates the explaining away of this as a natural meteorological event - AND fuels conspiracy theories is the fact that the government will not release the photos to the general public.

Considering it could be in the US government's best interest (at least from a PR point of view) to dispell any conspiracy theories on the demise of the shuttle, makes it all the more suspicious as to why the pictures have not been released.

And to top it all off is the purportedly now unavailable bit of video footage (last seen on CNN) showing the shuttle as it arced across the Texas sky - the particular video clip in question corresponds with reports from ground observers of what appears to be a "chaser" aircraft flying along side the doomed shuttle.... at 400,000 ft? ... at mach 6+ ?

I actually think I saw this particular bit of tape the day the shuttle went down, I remember looking at it and thinking that I was seeing chaser aircraft along side the Columbia, but I have not seen this video clip since the first day.
At any rate, there certainly are some mysteries yet to be uncovered concerning the Columbia's demise.

Columbia isnt a Aircraft.

And it isnt Military either..

So this doesnt really fit here..

I thought this was a place I could share my opinions without being shouted at

yeah i mean every post i have put up i have been crtiicised and been called that it isnt right but i just thought this was the closest castogray i could put it in i mean if there was one called clumbia i would have put it in there

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maybe you get critizied for every post because you have only stupid post!!!

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Michael

I think NASA got lazy with Columbia. They (NASA) knew that a chunk of styrofoam had hit the wing, but they still proceeded with the launch and mission. I don't really think there's a conspiracy around it, IMHO, I think it's just an accident that could have been prevented if it had received or attention and not neglected as much as it was.

They did not know that the debris had hit the wing DURING the launch, so there was nothing to do but continue with the launch. And since that is the case and they were on orbit prior to learning of the impact, the only new scenario that could've taken place would have been:

1. one astronaut doing an inspection EVA,
2. the crew finding out they were screwed, blued and tattoed
3. prematurely coming home
4. disintegrating several days earlier than they did.

Y'know,
I just don't understand how a chunk of freakin' styrofoam could have caused a space shuttle to go down.
It's just styrofoam!!!
That in and of itself leaves the Columbia event wide open for conspiracy theories.
I'm partial to the idea that it was a scalar strike.

And I think if this topic did not belong in this forum, a moderator would move it and counsel the poster.


-B.

Well, the foam used on the external tank is MUCH harder than styrofoam, so we need to keep that in mind. But I do believe the point should be brought home out of this about how fragile the shuttle is, and how damned-straight lucky we've been so far.