If time travel exists wouldn't there be alot of people coming here form the future who bought or stole a time machine, or whatever?

There are many answers to this question,
The two biggies would be:

They have and we have not noticed
Or that time travel in the "backwards" direction would not nessisarily lead to the past of "your" time line, simply just to an alternate realilitly where the "present" is "then", if u see where im coming from

Or maybe they use a wormhole and that wormhole doesn't appear until say, 2009, which means they can only go as far back into time to 2009?



[edit on 15/3/06 by Nventual]

i think what he is saying, is that theres a theory going around mainstream that if someone was able to time travel , even if they went back in time, they would be creating an alternate reality, one serpate from the one he was trying to goto. due to the fact that once a foriegn object enters a timeline then that reality isnt that reality anymore an must create a new one, Like ( Everytime you went to look in your Windows Explorer, it opened up a new Folder inside your computer with all the same info just different and a Copy of the one you were after)


So no matter what, these time travelers wouldnt even reach us, is what they are saying.

Originally posted by Tranceopticalinclined
i think what he is saying, is that theres a theory going around mainstream that if someone was able to time travel , even if they went back in time, they would be creating an alternate reality, one serpate from the one he was trying to goto. due to the fact that once a foriegn object enters a timeline then that reality isnt that reality anymore an must create a new one, Like ( Everytime you went to look in your Windows Explorer, it opened up a new Folder inside your computer with all the same info just different and a Copy of the one you were after)


So no matter what, these time travelers wouldnt even reach us, is what they are saying.

So are you saying that if John Titor is real, our reality is an alternate that was split from the main reality at the moment of his arrival? So there is another reality (or multiples) with another me (or multiples)? So much for being unique

Originally posted by darkelf
So are you saying that if John Titor is real, our reality is an alternate that was split from the main reality at the moment of his arrival? So there is another reality (or multiples) with another me (or multiples)? So much for being unique

That's where consciousness comes in. Theoretically, for every possible state of every particle in existence, there is a completely separate universe where that happens. An infinite number of universes. And maybe that's the real truth. However, we only seem to perceive one universe at a time, not a billion different universes. That would tend to suggest that when an observer is in place, a consciousness that separates "probabilities" from "realities," then the number of possible universes is reduced down to one, which is the one we're in right now.

That's why things seem relatively consistent, like your car doesn't change color overnight, and things don't randomly appear and disappear. You feel individual and unique, rather than a combination of a million different "yous" spread out in a million different universes. Your consciousness (along with those of every other living thing) interacts with the universe on a quantum level and defines the universe through perception.

As to your original question, though, maybe there are people traveling backwards and forwards through time all the time. But they're just not interacting with you, or you just might not be aware of how they change things.

If somebody came back in time and moved Lee Harvey Oswald's shot so that it killed President Kennedy, rather than his first wife, Jackie, how would you know the difference? Instead of Kennedy living, what if he had been killed? We might never have gotten to the Moon, or to Mars, and we would never have found the old alien saucer there, and we'd still be driving cars around on the streets rather than using anti-gravity. That would be a weird world, wouldn't it? But to you it would feel normal.

My take on this is slightly different.

If the future dwellers are capable of time travel, surely they have a device that can SEE into the future or past. It wouldn't take to long to ascertain that this particular period in time is dangerous, crazy, shallow and maybe not all that interesting anyway.

If you have read any accounts of the Montauk Project, other than genetic manipulation and mind-control programming enhancement....there is also the topic of Time-Travel experiments....

From my hyperspace studies...colour blue represents future, colour medium green represent past....and shapes...such as a circle represents space, an oval represents time...and an oval with a line through it, means time-travel.

Anyway, these symbols were placed above the entrances to the facilities where they performed time-travel...

When they went into the past, the hyperspace archetype was this:



When they went into the future, the hyperspace archetype was this:



Now, hyperspace is the physical place that the USS eldridge (philedelphia experiment - project rainbow) went into when it dissapeared and then re-appeared....all technology supposedly developed by Nikola Tesla....This reality is nothing but pure energy, consisting of archetypes/sounds/colours.....

Anyway, cutting a long story short...Montauk Project was the result of Rainbow Project.

So when there are accounts of visitors from the future coming to our present.....well, unless the controllers of rainbow project or montauk project allowed it to happen....it most likely wouldn't have happened, unless the traveler also works for them, and more than likely a disinformant...so truth with lies etc...

Oh..and people ask how can you go into the future if it hasn't happened...well the answer is that it has happened, the future happened yesterday, and its happening 2 minutes ago, and its happening NOW.

Past/present/future exists simultaneously.....so all is happening NOW, its just that you as a person are needing to experience this illusion of time specifically for a specific reason.....so if this part of time just so happens to be a crucial time in human history....you have chosen to participate in it! Good luck to you (and me lol)

Kind Regards
Merger


[edit on 17/3/06 by Merger]