Originally posted by infinite
Seeings Northern Ireland is not apart of the Republic, it does make sense.
- Naaa, I disagree infinite.
Please don't take this as flaming your comments but here's why.......
I think it makes as much 'sense' as trying to 'ban' people in anywhere else from flying a German or a Greek or a French flag, it really ought to
mean that much or little depending on your background.
But then this is nothing to do with anything remotely connected to 'sense'.
It's all NI's sectarian brand of politics.
One side trying to antagonise the other.
Irish republicans and nationalists know it gets right up unionists noses and in turn unionists know a ban would get right up republicans and
They are trying to make unity on St.Patricks day, thats why flags are barried so no group can influence it.
- This is fair enough as far as it goes.
the selectivity some use in this area is most amusing.
As a place where each tradition is supposed to have agreed to a parity of respect and esteem the idea is supposed to, ideally, be 'both or none'
(and because in the meantime NI is part of the UK on some offical buildings that means a union flage is sometimes flown).
But let's be honest for certain unionists and republicans the idea of both together or none at all is anathema.
Some prefer the slugging match in the hope they just might pull it off (as if
Absolute mayhem is an understatement
- Er, just out of interest how old is everyone in this discussion?
I refer you to the begining of the last round of the troubles and Paisley attempting to get the old RUC to remove the Irish tricolours.....
When McConnell, himself a Unionist, ordered the police to move against the Republican headquarters he was responding to pressure from Ian K.
Paisley, leader of the Free Presbyterians. Paisley had threatened that if the RUC did not remove the tricolour he would lead a march of his followers
to Divis Street and take it down himself.
- This is where we came in, hmmmmm?
Those with influence ought to be relaxing and calming people, not winding them up over this kind of crap. It can get out of hand and it has goten out
of hand before.
Frankly I could care less what anyones' 'favourite colour(s)' are.
they would not remove flags for 12th July parades.
- Do you know that there was a time when some people wrote to newspapers claiming that that kind of 'counter use' of the Union flag a disgrace?
How times change, huh?
Also, protestant extremists should not be permitted to disgrace the Union Jack by flying it on their counter-demonstrations.
St.Patricks day is the only event they are making non-partasan
- Well I get the idea infinite but how is that seriously meant to work?
The patron saint of Ireland day is meant to be stripped of it's 'Irishness' (to suit a section of society who vehemently deny their own
(it makes as much sense and it's about as likely as trying to strip the Union flag from the 12th of July)
Its going to end up with trouble, i was raised from the loyalist area and i was brought up that St.Paddy was a catholic/republican holiday.
Trying to get both sides to celebrate it "nicely" is asking for trouble.
- Why should it?
If people don't 'feel' Irish and don't want to celebrate the patron saint of Ireland then don't go (and certainly don't start trying to create
hell over it). It's as simple as that.
Just because in some areas of NI people are still loopy enough to indoctrinate their kids with that kind if idiotic nonsense it is neither correct nor
the whole story.
Go and see the big parade at Downpatrick and see protestants celabrating the day without trouble, as they have done for many many years.
(note too that there is a pig ignorant f*@kwit element reported jeering there but it is confined to a handful of idiots making a complete t*t of
I'm not saying it's always easy but it can be done and there is no reason why it should not be done......especially when we see the catastrophic
results of not doing it.
Happy Pats day to you all.
[edit on 17-3-2006 by sminkeypinkey]