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reply posted on 13-3-2006 @ 07:43 PM by Merger
Just had a quick look at this thread, I like the honesty of Whitelightwolf...... probably puts herself up for attacks, but either way, honest none the less.

I actually had a dream about ATS about 3 or 4 days ago...... it is nothing unusual really quite the same type of dreams, all sci-fi, related to experiences (memories), aliens, religious figures, anti-religious figures, some nightmarish type stuff etc.... but this one sort of got my nose out of joint...

Have a read if you like, it has to do with this thread

My ATS Dream

What I do know about the internet, is that its quite 'organised'...ie the way the traffic goes around the world...its not like a web, its more like a bottleneck in certain places.... a 'hub' is located at one of the largest ISP's in the USA..... even Aussie traffic goes to the USA before it reaches China/Russia/Korea etc... (well this was around 6 years ago, no idea what its like now).

When I was analysing quite an interesting virus/trojan/worm, called the QAZ, i was fascinated with the fact it was designed with a compiler that was not 'really' used elsewhere for trojans/worms etc... most at the time were VB script, delphi, Visual Basic, ASM etc... but this was...(well i can't actually remember it)..but what I do remember was that its mainly use in the Microsoft Programming Environment (that MS actually use it to program MS software) and I did end up reading an article later that others thought it was kinda strange too, and that the QAZ worm/trojan was invented by MS itself..... then out of NOWHERE......Microsoft said that its own servers where hacked with the QAZ..........aroudn the same time I also ended up being infected with the QAZ on my own computer (which buggered up my ego as I was quite protective and had big defences for such infiltration...was quite ANTI-VIRUS as you'd say).

So... I was really interested in this bloody thing.... It had the capability of an E-mail 'server'...however could never get passed the prompt, which meant it had its own PROTOCOL developed rather than the standard SMTP and POP3.....

So I decided to execute the thing on a lappie, and found that it sent data to CHINA (which apparently is where the hacker was from)...however i noticed something quite strange....... a trace route, actually went through a line straight from here....through to the USA........and then......STOP... It never went passed the USA ISP..... the traceroute ended pinging out, meaning the data never actually reached CHINA..but rather in the USA.....

So from my then knowledge of TCP/IP... it was POSSIBLE that an ISP had the capability of storing such data transmitted from a trojan/worm, especially that of QAZ as it was an e-mail type trojan/worm... and thus information used by whomever.....

So what I'm trying to say here, even though before I was into conspiracy theories.... I actually did think was quite strange...MS being hacked by it...Myself being infected by it (Not that i was targetted, but more so that i was very protective of my PC, yet it infiltrated it anyway, and it wasn't that smart of a trojan/worm to infect PC's anyway), the stories of MS actually creating it, and the fact the data never actaully reached CHINA anyway, it ended up in the USA....

So from this experience, (and I haven't done any research into it), I'd be interested to know the trace route to ATS.... whether there's a HUB along the way that is capable of mirroring the data sent to ATS before it even gets there.......

I would prefer ATS to use HTTPS:// just a tad more security to ease the minds of users thinking ATS can be comprimised...

Regular change of passwords..... etc.. etc... And be careful in using such words which I call 'Trigger' words.. I won't mention some here (even though i've read them on ATS)....... but I do know that even though there is a thing called a traceroute...... there also the monitoring of telephone lines by echelon, and voice recognition, fax recognition, and data recognition, (even encrypted) can be monitored anyway, doesn't matter if it comes from ATS or any other site....

So just use discernment, watch what you post, but I suggest to never attack the belief of other members.......they have a right to choose what they want to believe

Kind Regards
Merger
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