I have a really bad feeling about ATS

Whitelitewolf, if you spent a little more time reading other peoples posts properly, you will see I never said you were brilliant. I believe that is the word you used to describe yourself.

I was being sarcastic when I was referring to your threads btw

You seem to have a tendency of turning your personal experiences(whatever) into fact that we are all supposed to just accept.

Oh and btw I never said you were 'crazy' once again your word.

THIS THREAD =

EDIT: masqua....makes your poem all the more appropriate...


[edit on 15-3-2006 by loam]

I went ahead and sent a request out for more info on this whole monitoring business. The information I got back is well beyond my American high school edumacation. So the information is going to be a bit watered down but here goes.

An artificial EM ocean (AEMO) covers the planet. It was created by many different elements such as cell phone towers, cable lines, telephone lines, power lines, fiber optics, and pretty much all the gridwork that we take for granted. The new AT&T commercial shows it well with all the blue lines forming this interwoven grid/web pattern. Obviously, the AEMO is more powerful in the areas with more concentrated grids/webs. Think of it as an ocean. And just like an ocean you use a type of sonar to create a 3d map.

If I want to grab all the information from ATS in a nanosecond, I would use a satellite to send a specially configured micro-EM pulse (MEMP) to the 3d coordinates of the ATS hard drive. The MEMP wave would map everything within the range specified and bounce back after hitting the ground. The information is stored in an artificially created crystal. Now I have a 3d map of the ATS hard drive in a crystal which can be accessed from a remote terminal. This same technology can be used to map anyone's brain. And in fact, if you are on "the list" your brain map (including all memories) is updated regularly. Since there is a delay in mapping your thoughts can not be read in real-time.

There you go whitelightwolf. After reading that, no one should think you're crazy any more. I shall now claim that title. :Þ

Interesting Arm, thanks.

Gee, look at the topic of C2C radio tonight:

"UFO researcher and author Nick Redfern will talk about his work uncovering how the entire UFO research community has been monitored by U.S. Intelligence Agencies."


edit due to dirty monitor

[edit on 15-3-2006 by desert rat]

your part of the great internet experiment.where the govenments look at your thoughts your feelings and them uses the against you lol.sell your private info to companies and enjoy your banter of ideas they can steal.hehe but wait that not all folks dont worry thats my paranoid way or am i? lol.....thinktank we are or are we just monkeys without bananas

Well the fact that if it were so easy to monitor a site, and be able to search a certain word or phrase in ATS, and they could be able to do it in seconds. Why then does the government have to ask Google to have access to their data?

Surely if the Government was monitoring websites, it'd be monitoring something like Google. Mainly for people searching for 'Hiring for suicide bombers', 'how to make a bomb that will kill 20 people' and so on. Do you really think they're more interested in a bunch of people on a conspiracy site, over people searching for kiddie porn, bomb making, terrorist groups and so on.

If there were any site worth watching, you'd only need to watch Google. Yet, they're obviously not as they have to ask Google to hand over their data on their searches.

There's absolutly no evidence whatsoever that the Government would be watching ATS. There is almost no reason, also, why the Government would be watching ATS. There's not much here that you couldn't find elsewhere on the internet...it's just in one place for your convenience.

Remember to keep the ATS moto 'deny ignorance', because right now all i'm seeing is ignorance. Plain and simply people's paranoia, based upon their 'feelings' and that they have a 'huntch' that the Government would be watching ATS.

wow a day later and 3 pages have been posted since my post. we really are retarded or desprite, but as they say argueing on the internet is like running in the special olympics even if u win ur still retarded

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
3) Why does this keep coming up? Place yourself in our shoes for a moment... three semi-idealists managing a large and time-consuming discussion board as a hobby side-venture keep getting accusations of having unethical ulterior motives.

Well it is a conspiracy site, people tend to be more paranoid than average.

Think about it, if you tend to mull things over in a conspiracy light eventually the thought might cross your mind "maybe this conspiracy website is a conspiracy to keep track of all the people looking for things that they shouldn't..."

[edit on 15-3-2006 by ShakyaHeir]

argueing on the internet is like running in the special olympics even if u win ur still retarded

I think that pretty much sums it up

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by ingwar
After only 5 hours of using this site, I have found minimum 30 indirect provements of MI-affiliation of this

Would you be so kind as to share maybe five of those?

I'd be curious myself.

Explanation:
Everything is very simple.
After some short time of using this site the majority of people with normal IQ come to conclusion that this is progovernment site (stand on progovernment positions) (and 80% of people produce such type of thoughts).
So, the people, who are doesn't believe in efficiency of American and British initiatives in Iraq and other locations, feel themselves a minority. Their posts are not popular, some kind of oppressed and so on.
After this, every reasonable person asks simple question:
"Why does progovernment site monitor anti-government activity?".
And, as the result, person gets reasonable asnwer:
"Intelligence-affiliation".

From the position that this is progovernment site, such statements as "Conspiracy Masters A dedicated forum for ATS Conspiracy Masters to !!!!!????? publish their work ????!!!!!! and receive comments from ATS members. " look really strange.

The solution: I think you need some kind of area on this site for people who are NOT American foreign policy supporters. Also the area of serious above top secret analisys, for example money flows analisys (such type of activity is interested to me). In other words - the area of real neutrality to topsecret events in this world.

Personally I find the retard comment crass and offensive.

The misspelling in the original post though is a beautiful irony and speaks volumes.

Jak

[edit on 15/3/06 by JAK]

Sorry Jak if it offended you, but i do speak truth. Plus its just my ignorant American humor.....

Originally posted by whitelightwolfGuys...After much time on ATS...I just have this HUGE feeling that there is just something wierd going on...Now I know, I KNOW that the government absolutely monitors this site. But who is behind the whole entire thing. And the thread about ATS being the big conspiracy makes a whole lot of sense....I am just saying, I have this HUGE feeling, and those "HUGE" feelings I get are never wrong. Something fishy is going on here...and I don't like it.

Much time – a MONTH!!! Are you serious?
That said, we, that is each of us has to use discernment when it comes to acceptance of information that is presented to us via various means. In developing trust in the various places we have via the internet to share information, share views and yes conspiracies etc. You obviously have insights or means that many others don’t for you to state with such conviction that ‘I KNOW’ that the government ABSOLUTELY monitors this site. How do you know? If they do who cares? Not me. I am monitored anyway. One more doesn’t phase it even it were true.

I would also suggest to you that if you feel as you so succinctly put it – something weird is going on here and you don’t like it why hang around? The on the other hand perhaps you need to be here for a little while longer before making an in formed decision.




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[edit on 15/3/2006 by Lady of the Lake]

This thread keeps going since it is a hot topic, every body likes hot topics to CHAT about. I wonder how many members and even non-members click the new posts button. If the NRA set up a site with pictures of guns and contact info, they would be fools to think they wouldn't get the feds asking for thier license. There are people who will be different and willing to speak about thier feelings and don't have a need to fit in. Even if they know they are talking to robotic groupies who came here just to say "me, me, me, me too!" and hurt some one who's being honest.

Why would any one be afraid of accusations that may be false at a site that can prove just about anything to be a hoax? It seems like what big corp.s do when the new guy says whisleblower,coruption and money in the same sentence in the breakroom. Rodney King was made an example of.



[edit on 15-3-2006 by XL5]

Dear Whitelightwolf,
Wow, girl, don't get dis-heartened, discouraged, depressed, dejected or downcast.

We guys are just havin' a li'l fun! (at your expense, of course!).
Male chauvinism at its grandest, what?

But never mind these fellas for hauling you over the coals.
Do we meet at Pizza Hut tomorrow at 52nd Street, 1PM EST?
I'll personally apologise on behalf of ATS for pounding you to smithereens!


[edit on 15-3-2006 by mikesingh]

Originally posted by whitelightwolf

Now I do not know what you guys can do...but I do find it wierd how you all have S for your name...in the begining.

Hmm I do not know how long it wil last...

Its True!
I've been investigating the three S's for years now and evidence is slowly coming to light (see photo below) about there off board activities, What i am discovering is a seedy world of shocking intrigue, more news will follow, iamian out(fuzzy noise)........

Amazing shocking Evidence:

I'd like to point out that I am the 12% above.

Springer...

You mean the other two amigos are the watered down version?

Frankly, I'm surprised you only claim 12%.... Are you sure you haven't tampered with the label???



[edit on 15-3-2006 by loam]

Originally posted by syberkat

Havnt you heard of Echelon? Google it. You are obviously way in the dark with modern technology.

Still i dont care whos monitoring what, well i do but its tuff shhhhht. lol

Thanks for the link on the 3 22 number kat. I've heard of Echelon, in fact I live not 50 miles from where I believe it was begun. I think Mcdonald Detwiler? Not sure. It is a massive 'anti-terrorism' conversation monitoring system, that I have heard even hears baby monitors. The more far out one that I have heard of, though find really far out there, is the tv tube camera system. The rumour goes that for years now there has been the technology to use a tv screen in reverse, to watch the viewers of the set....
The story also claimed ex first lady Hillary was involved in its development. I'd be surprised if that technology exists, but Echelon sounds to me to be real and fully operational.
And whitelightwolf, thank you, though at times dull, this is an enjoyable thread to read.
I am glad they didn't deep six it yet, and I think it is a great first impression, it shows that fairness, balance, and freedom of expression is not dead everywhere.
And regarding the SSS thing, it reminded me of a Bob Geldof interview with Kiss, that he did way back when he was just a music journalist. He always has been a bit of a pot stirrer, and asked them why four Jewish lads such as them would use the twin lightning bolt SS's (ie: the Nazi SS) in their band's name. I never did read their answer, but I imagine they were not impressed.
Is there really an MI 6? I thought that was just Ian Fleming novels.
And if the NSA, MI5, CSIS, CIA, etc. are taking notes.... good for them, that is their job I believe...
They are not my cup of tea though, and if they are reading my posts, I bet I am not theirs either.
I do recommend a book I once read, 'The CIA's 50 Greatest Hits.'. Very good stuff in there, if I recall, all about their covert machinations abroad that were 'successful'.

I hate to feed your paranoia about ATS, but I figured the suspicious folk here might want to be aware of this:

Link to posting here.

Enjoy,
-rdube02

[edit on 15-3-2006 by rdube02]