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Originally posted by DeeplyAwake
Although, some people here actually do know a hec of a lot I think...and I love learning from them.
Sometime you should drop in on the sites where there's no "tough crowd" and take a good look at what people post and want others to believe. I find it kind of chilling that anyone can come in there and post the most ridiculous things and everyone will support them.
People that I would never even have approached in the real world seem perfectly at ease sharing and teaching what they know with the rest of us slackers.
Then I have meant intellectuals who say some methods are wrong, such as self studying, and learning through experience. These people love experts, books, and studies, and if you haven't gone through those hoops, it doesn't matter what you can do, because that doesn't count either.
Originally posted by DeeplyAwake
Scepticism only becomes difficult for someone when they are describing things that actually happened to them but there is no proof of. Still it would be nice to be believed on things that can't be proven.
Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Skeptics are people that contain a lot of fear in my eyes and rely on rationality to overcome overwhelming emotions that they do not feel comfortable expressing. Just my opinion of course.
Originally posted by Yarcofin
As for the idea of ATS being a "tough crowd", I offer the following:
The truth cannot possibly be rejected by a reasonable person.
Originally posted by Enyalius
Don't confuse Skeptics with Scientists.
Scientists indeed keep an open mind, well most of em. They don't think "oh it's not proven so it can't be". No they will form theories and ideas about a posibility that it could be true or not and then investigate. Their findings will then be presented to a form of tribunal where they can present their findings. If other scientists can confirm it all then it is accepted as being proven to be or not to be.
Sceptics say before hand "It's not proven so therefore it isn't so". Sceptics are nothing more then science wanna-be's. No matter what proof you present they will always find means with equally invalid views and standpoints to proof their own point. So it is usually a "your word vs mine"-argument. Depending on how open both sides for another standpoint determines the amount of flaming/mudslinging taking place between them. Both the sceptic and believer will rationalize an idea to be "right" in their point of view. Anyone who disagrees is seen as making an attack on their point and thus their ego feels attacked. Heated discussions over nothing.
A scientist would come in between the 2 groups and say. It is Not proven to be nor is it proven to be. But I shall investigate and share my findings with you. A scientist and Occultist are very similar...both seek evidence and do research and try to find balance in almost anything.
I too do research and try to proof certain aspects. But for who are you doing the research? For yourself? Or to better mandkind and give them more insight? I personally don't care for sceptics and having to deliver proof to them. It's not my problem they can't see more then there is nor does it bother me in the slightest