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Faked moon landings on next Friday's show?


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reply posted on 29-3-2006 @ 08:18 PM by Vitalij



Originally posted by Kruel
Wha??? Vitalij, can explain a little more?

Having researched plenty of the evidence for and against the moon landings... well there seems to both be proof FOR and AGAINST it! I think the theory that they did go, but filmed a version for the public is the most likely. I mean there are certain things in those moon videos that just scream fake.


Moon's influence is, first of all, high and low tides. The moon always "communicates" with inanimate nature, they kind of act together, they establish certain "informational field". A contact between moon and human would occur in a different style. If such contact indeed took place, the first thing that would happen on the Earth is that either new plants would appear, or some old plants would undergo informational changeover. It is possible to pick up such "new" changes here relying on, let's call for simplicity, ESP. No such changes were registered on this planet.

I don't expect one to either believe me or not, I am just saying how things are, for one cannot just chuck words out from the song. So, no man on the moon so far, sorry.

For the fun sake, one may try extracting some information through above-mentioned "energetic fingerprint" during a radio show I am about to launch with the help of Ross Hemsworth on nettalkradio.co.uk. Apart from some rather general topics that will be broadcasted as a podcast, I will be giving answers to some personal requests using "my" resident psychic, a medium of a highest calibre. Any astronaut is welcome to face me on radio show.

PS I will probably post some more announcement details later today in this "Now That's Weird" section.



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reply posted on 29-3-2006 @ 08:40 PM by Kruel



Originally posted by Vitalij
PS I will probably post some more announcement details later today in this "Now That's Weird" section.


Cool, I look forward to that.

I admit that what your saying sounds really weird and far-out from a first-impression standpoint, but I'm still interested.



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reply posted on 29-3-2006 @ 08:57 PM by Vitalij



Originally posted by Kruel...I admit that what your saying sounds really weird and far-out from a first-impression standpoint, but I'm still interested.

From another side NASA establishment, military and the likes tend to take a position of a pregnant "virgin" and the best they can produce is: "You can't handle the truth!".



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reply posted on 30-3-2006 @ 12:13 AM by AgentSmith


So we didn't go to the Moon because your ESP tells us we didn't? OK......
Well that's the clincher then, all that scientific discussion was a waste of time when you had the answers all along...



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reply posted on 30-3-2006 @ 12:52 AM by Vitalij

ESP-based approach


Originally posted by AgentSmith
So we didn't go to the Moon because your ESP tells us we didn't?

There was no moon landing by the humans in the first place - the cause. That can consequently be probed by ESP - the consequence. Can be probed regardless of all the misinformation fed to the media. Where did you get that "because of my ESP"?


Originally posted by AgentSmith
Well that's the clincher then, all that scientific discussion was a waste of time when you had the answers all along...

You may laugh, but that's exactly how it often works. If you so wish, consider my view complementary to Bart Sibrel's one.

For example: if you consider good ESP-based medical diagnostics, it can be made instantly (over the internet) without going to the doctors for months (so that they can almost kill a person without even getting the diagnosis right). That was done many times and can be done again on my radio show if one so wishes. (For free, by the way). Whether you believe it or not is of not much importance, but people who were suffering for years and years can finally receive the right advice to fight their illnesses.

[edit on 3-30-2006 by Vitalij]



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reply posted on 30-3-2006 @ 08:06 PM by POTTOS


Vitaljj, please pass that around sir, don't bogart



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reply posted on 31-3-2006 @ 06:07 AM by Vitalij

"bogart" is not a dictionary word


Originally posted by POTTOS
Vitaljj, please pass that around sir, don't bogart

I don't know what exactly do you mean by the word "bogart". Anyway, perhaps it would be better not to "contaminate" this thread, you can make suggestions/ask questions for the upcoming radio show in the neighbouring one I have started. Cheers,



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reply posted on 31-3-2006 @ 06:32 AM by AgentSmith


Bogart is a dictionary word. You can find it on dictionary.com.

In this context I think he meant it as:


Main Entry: bogart1
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: to selfishly take or keep something; hog
Example: She was drunk and bogarted attention at the block party.
Etymology: probably from Humphrey Bogart, US actor
Usage: slang; bogarted, bogarting
dictionary.reference.com...


That's dictionary.com.



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reply posted on 31-3-2006 @ 05:22 PM by Vitalij

americanism?


Originally posted by AgentSmith
Bogart is a dictionary word. You can find it on dictionary.com.


Thank you for the link. OK, let it be a dictionary word. This word seems to be a (recent?) americanism. It's not in English Oxford Dictionary, not in WordWeb (very popular dictionary for PC), not in my English-Russian dictionaries, and (English) native speakers in Australia don't know it.



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reply posted on 1-4-2006 @ 01:14 PM by Il Papa


vitalij r u 4 real??

You say a man steps on the moon and new plant species appears here?
Nonsense!!
Yes the moon affects the tides, its a force called "gravity" (its in the dictionary...LOL) not esp or anything else. Yet another silly claim about esp.
If esp can prove or disprove that a man stepped on the moon, an object about a quarter of a million miles away, then perhaps by this marvelous, mysterious power you could undertake a simpler task. Tell me where I am in the world, say down to 1000 miles.

I mean if you can say someone had or had not stepped on an object as far away as the moon, then telling me where I have stepped would be a piece of cake, me old cockney sparrow? Oops wasthat a clue to my location?

That should be easy, what about my initials or sex?

I await eagerly your answers.

The moon actions upon the earth and the earth actions upon the moon, but in a more powerful way because 'tis bigger.

Maybe the reason there is no life on the moon is because the lunar beings stepped here with bigger feet.

I had my doubts about the Lunar landings on and off, but lunatic claims like yours throwme more into the they did it camp.
I now believe and know they landed there. Whether the technology of the day could record it, is more the issue imho. If anything the major concern I have is that I dont think they told the truth about what was up there.



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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 03:57 PM by Vitalij

Q:-Who is more dangerous than a fool A:-A fool with initiative. /D. Granin, I Walk into the Storm/


Originally posted by Il Papa
vitalij r u 4 real??

You say a man steps on the moon and new plant species appears here?
Nonsense!!
Yes the moon affects the tides, its a force called "gravity" (its in the dictionary...LOL) not esp or anything else. Yet another silly claim about esp.
If esp can prove or disprove that a man stepped on the moon, an object about a quarter of a million miles away, then perhaps by this marvelous, mysterious power you could undertake a simpler task. Tell me where I am in the world, say down to 1000 miles.

I mean if you can say someone had or had not stepped on an object as far away as the moon, then telling me where I have stepped would be a piece of cake, me old cockney sparrow? Oops wasthat a clue to my location?

That should be easy, what about my initials or sex?

I await eagerly your answers.

The moon actions upon the earth and the earth actions upon the moon, but in a more powerful way because 'tis bigger.

Maybe the reason there is no life on the moon is because the lunar beings stepped here with bigger feet.

I had my doubts about the Lunar landings on and off, but lunatic claims like yours throwme more into the they did it camp.
I now believe and know they landed there. Whether the technology of the day could record it, is more the issue imho. If anything the major concern I have is that I dont think they told the truth about what was up there.

Moon possesses certain energy, there is really powerful force that can be probed using ESP, even if it’s miles and miles away – unlike many people with their energy resembling that of a flea. And yet they love considering themselves as some exceptionally valuable asset. So ‘energetic fingerprint’ of an average person in fact presents by itself rather “weak signal” – nothing to compare with that of moon’s fingerprint.

OK, even though it’s not something that is really worth doing and it’s unlikely somebody else (except yourself) shows much interest in your biography:

About 6 years ago you were involved in a road accident (your vehicle and another one). As a result, you were frightened and received a craniocerebral trauma (hit your head, in other words). Even though it wasn’t very severe, coupled with this fear it had affected your mental abilities. You have some mark on your neck, probably on the right side from the rear. Your right eye can see better than the left one – there is a cataract or something like that in your left eye (and not in right one). Since childhood your peers didn’t like you very much so you were bitten up regularly (you also were not physically strong). That has influenced you psychic perception of the world.

Your nails often split into separate layers – you nibble them (because of a feeling of being defective and mentally inferior). A smile on your face is asymmetrical. A few times you were falling on the left side. You sleep more on the left side.

You live kind of south from London (some outskirts or whatever they call such fringe suburbs), and don’t go to central city often. You also mostly communicate with people living outside metropolitan London.

To explain to a fool that he is a fool, one should learn his language. In this message I am trying to speak your language. Would you be seriously interested to investigate the topics I am on about here and had, as a decent organization, serious funds and resources so that you can give received knowledge free to all people, I would consider further exchange, but now it’s an idle talk.

Anyway, I have already mentioned earlier another more appropriate thread for addressed to me requests.

A subject line to this message contains another, more concise, answer to your message.

To receive “ESP-based” answers one can study Cosmic Relaxation and receive all the answers (including those about Moon landings) on his own. The Creator gives to people all the food they need – a great variety to choose from, but unfortunately He doesn’t have to visit a toilet for them: this is something people should do by themselves.

In the end, I am also giving you a free recommendation: in the near future please beware of and try to avoid movement and transportation for you will experience some sort of accident, and that way you will receive many troubles that will not facilitate the development of your mental abilities.

[edit on 4-2-2006 by Vitalij]



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reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 05:45 PM by Il Papa


vitalij

Prepare to give up your arrogant belief in your powers.


About 6 years ago you were involved in a road accident (your vehicle and another one). As a result, you were frightened and received a craniocerebral trauma (hit your head, in other words). Even though it wasn’t very severe, coupled with this fear it had affected your mental abilities. You have some mark on your neck, probably on the right side from the rear. Your right eye can see better than the left one – there is a cataract or something like that in your left eye (and not in right one). Since childhood your peers didn’t like you very much so you were bitten up regularly (you also were not physically strong). That has influenced you psychic perception of the world.



If either of us received a blow to our head and affected mental abilities its you. No accident here. No cigar son. Mark on right of neck?? I have moles and lumps everywhere..who dont. I have a more prominent abnormality though but I shouldn't have to tell a psychic should I?? I would say my left eye sees better than the right but granted there are a few floaters there, but there are also some in the right! I wouldn't say I was beaten up at school I think I would remember. My circle of friends then are in my circle of friends now. I am now and always have been a pacifist??


Your nails often split into separate layers – you nibble them (because of a feeling of being defective and mentally inferior). A smile on your face is asymmetrical. A few times you were falling on the left side. You sleep more on the left side.


Nothing wrong with my nails, smile I dont fall on my left side, what are you on about. I am not defective or mentally inferior, not that I find that a problem, cant say about you though. I have had reason for a sleep study some time back I am restless...I lie in all possible directions...whenI do sleep.


You live kind of south from London (some outskirts or whatever they call such fringe suburbs), and don’t go to central city often. You also mostly communicate with people living outside metropolitan London.


I live at least 250 miles from London. I have never lived and never will live in the cesspool that is called London. I cant believe that you got that info from my previous post...your having me on???

Explaining a fool to a fool in another language?? You chose to make your ludricous comments on this board in English!!

How can you judge me a fool when you dont know me? Is it because I question your statement?

Thanks for the free advice. But going by the accuracy of the above I wont lose to much sleep regarding travel, I dont think. Either way tis destiny and their is nothing I can do about that.

Bye my friend



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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 04:02 AM by Rock Ape


Hey I Grew up in London...
It gave me all the combat training I needed to join the Armed forces...

Oh and Yes we went to the moon

But the footage may have been faked. Camera failure or problems with the comms equipment may have meant they had a standby plan to broadcast a recreation of the landings

It was the height of the cold war, you think the Russians woulda' just sat back and gone for building space stations if America Hadn't gone to the Moon... Hell no they would have got a man there first.

Russia and America were always trying to outdo each other.

anyone under 30 doesn't really appreciate what the cold war was. It was a scary time to live in. When I joined up in 87 I was trained to kill Russians, luckily 3 years later the warsaw pact fell apart. and I ended up in the Desert of Saudi Arabia.



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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 04:33 AM by VType


Up until recently I did beleive we went to the moon. But the Goverments in paticular Nasa's lack of ability to get even a few vague moon images of these vehicles and landing sites especially since Nasa's moon imagery program allows very nice zooming(some you can see individual boulders in craters) near everywhere but where these landings took place is Highly suspicious. Hell a few images from a SAT or even a high power land based telescope would do the trick but Nasa What gives? I can see the mountains on Mars and most of its terrain in great detail and we land rovers there but no Images of the laughably closer Moon landings.
And I also am believing that these moon Astronauts were drugged and tricked to make them beleive they were there as well. Images Nasa Images cmon you guys are starting to look like f'n dumbass's over this.



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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 06:09 AM by AgentSmith


1) There is no telescope on Earth or in orbit that could see the Rovers
2) There have not been any probes with the capability to image the landing sites in great detail (though there is one which shows 'smudges' thought to be the landing site of one of the missions).

Funnily enough it's not one of NASA priorities to prove to anyone that they went to the Moon, at the end of the day Conspiracy believers will never be convinced regardless of any images because they will just say they could have been faked.
Hell there is so much evidence to show they did go and none to suggest they didn't (no really, there isn't if you bother to research things properly and actually understand what you are talking about), yet some people still choose to believe that it was a fake.

So why should they spend time and money in a vain attempt to prove to an insignificant, uneducated number of people that they went?
I wouldn't bother and it would be a waste of time, to the rest of us any images would be little more than an idle curiosity and real scientists are probably more interested in spending the time and money on exploring areas unknown rather than take some holiday snaps of somewhere we've already been.

Some people have better things to do with their lives than pander to a group of people that have difficulty picking up a book, let alone reading it.

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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 07:26 AM by Astyanax

I was there...

...taking a stroll with my parasol across the Sea of Tranquillity when that damn' tin firebug came down. Threw up so much dust it gave me lunar bronchitis. Singed the tassels on my brolly too, and they were asbestos.

But seriously: I remember Apollo. Not only was I alive in 1969, I was old enough to understand what was going on. At the time, there was no doubting it. Apart from whatever NASA and the US government were putting out, there was plenty of independent evidence too: government and private observatories in different parts of the world tracked the moon shots. I'm a third-worlder by origin, and the media in my country syndicated material from Communist countries as well as from the West. The Communists didn't doubt that the moon landings were taking place -- and as someone else has already pointed out, they would surely have been the first to expose the Americans if the landings had been faked.

By the way, full marks to Vitalij for that full-tilt, guts-or-glory charge straight into a brick wall. Utterly overcome by admiration for his/her performance, I can do no more than...


You have voted Vitalij for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

The daisies are springing up beneath my moondust-covered feet even as I write.



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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 04:24 PM by Vitalij

It is destiny and there is nothing you can do about that…


Originally posted by Il Papa
vitalij

Prepare to give up your arrogant belief in your powers.
...


Again, for some reason you still think that study of your (out of more than 6 billion people) biography acutely deserves attention and is something of utmost importance to the humankind. So you are ready to go back to your beloved history, where they didn’t respect you from the early days and turned into a “pacifist”. Look everyone, here he came for a freebie – to ask where he lives and what’s his name! – What an honour! – as if my whole life was waiting for this very moment! Any ESP-capable operator will ask you for such a hefty fee for this kind of exercises that you’ll decide instead to ask a neighbour about your name and address (if you don’t know them yourself). And what’s happening here – you came for freebies trying to take my time. Do you consider yourself such a “Cool Dude” so as to test me and information from above?

Expecting to receive normal questions from people who have genuine interest in the methods used (and perhaps who really need an answer to their not an empty question), I have agreed to amuse myself a little. And what happened? – you see, he doesn’t believe it!

You have asked for 1000 miles accuracy – I have told you: London. When 1000 miles is the required resolution everything around Moscow – is Moscow, everything around London – is London, and by the way I have told you - south from the city. I can ascertain the location of a person with a precision exceeding that of GPS tracking devices, but why do I need you? Or your sex change?

Why should I please your empty curiosity? What will that give to humanity? – Nothing. And because of that they do punish harshly for such idle requests. To ensure whether received info was true or not, people who produce empty requests will be experiencing indeed big troubles with their likes, relatives and close people. Then the information becomes a reality – tested by person’s own experience.

Having continued to insist that my words are the lunatic claims, you didn’t understand one very essential personified detail that I have passed to you for free in the end of my previous message: a warning about approaching troubles. Please note – I have nothing to do with that. All I did is passed, as a conduit, the information for you personally (which, should you wish so, you could have received by yourself). And when this information will materialize and if because of that you will suddenly want, following your old habit, in the same way easily and ‘for free’ to communicate with a crank who speaks broken English (again, for your own benefit) don’t be surprised if it will turn out that you have already exceeded your limits of attention.

What can be added here is that because of a flea analysis of the arisen situation you have accustomed to, initially it will be hard for you to believe that all that is indeed happening in your life, just as you can’t believe that location south of London I have pointed to was not some lucky guess coincidence. And the man who don’t analyze his own situation in proper time, often referred to as a fool. As you have absolutely correctly noted, destiny.

I wish you happiness and courage in meeting your destiny.



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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 04:29 PM by AgentSmith


*clap* *clap* *clap*

Bravo!!

What a performance...

Typical 'psychic', full of rhetoric and a speech so long one forgets the whole point, neatly diverting one away from the fact that you couldn't even get something 'simple' right.

I salute you sir.

Encore! Encore!



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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 07:03 PM by Dae



Originally posted by Vitalij
Man has never stepped on the moon. The moon possesses certain properties. If a human had stepped on a lunar surface (regardless of what kind of space suit he is wearing), the lunar "energetic fingerprint" from this contact would certainly be here, on the Earth. But it's not here, and has never been. There's no point to deceive people.


Would this qualify? Parkes in Australia has a huge telescope which was used as a receiving station for the reception of telemetry and TV from the surface of the Moon. However...



www.parkes.atnf.csiro.au...

But suddenly troubled loomed. While fully tipped over waiting for the Moon to rise, the telescope was struck by a series of severe, 110 km per hour gusts of wind, which made the control room shudder. The telescope was slammed back against its zenith axis gears. This was a dangerous situation, threatening the integrity of the telescope structure. Fortunately, cool heads prevailed, and as the winds abated, Buzz Aldrin activated the TV camera just as the Moon rose into the telescope's field of view, and tracking began.

Using a less sensitive 'off-axis' detector, Parkes was able to receive the TV pictures just as the LM TV camera was switched on. Less than nine minutes later the Moon had risen into the field of view of the Parkes telescope's main detector. Because Parkes was a larger telescope, it captured more signal and so produced better pictures. Houston switched to Parkes and remained with those pictures for the rest of the 21/2-hour broadcast.

Parkes staffer Neil 'Fox' Mason, who was seated at the control desk, drove the telescope without being allowed to once turn around and see the incoming pictures on the TV monitor. It was essential for him to monitor the tracking of the telescope, in case the winds picked up again, threatening the signal reception. The weather remained bad at Parkes, with the telescope operating well outside safety limits for the entire duration of the moonwalk.



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reply posted on 7-4-2006 @ 03:20 AM by Vitalij

another idle curiosity request?


Originally posted by AgentSmith
*clap* *clap* *clap*

Bravo!!

What a performance...

Typical 'psychic', full of rhetoric and a speech so long one forgets the whole point, neatly diverting one away from the fact that you couldn't even get something 'simple' right.

I salute you sir.

Encore! Encore!

What am I neatly diverting from? In faked moon landing thread I have expressed my view on moon landing: they never took place. You have a different opinion: that they did happen. Which point I want you to forget? - Or you also simply prefer idle talk exercises?



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