Arafat has heart attack

Maybe age will do what politics has failed to do.
Take Arafat out of the picture.

He may be back again but he will have lost his drive, he is going to be sidelined now....

Good news all around

www.guardian.co.uk...

This guy is 74, he has parkinsons and he just had a mild heart attack, he is finished.

He either gets out or he dies in there, his choice.

I'm willing to bet that it will get more stressful in future and that is not good for him.

Maybe with Arafat gone we can have a real peace discussion.

I noticed a fast news blurb today about a cabinet shakeup in Palestine? Is this related to Arafat?

Yep, you gotta admit it came at a good time.

I bet the gossip among the arabic populations will be "Israel poisons Arafat" or something like that.

Is this the beginning of the end of the Intfada?

Yeah and I for one will not miss it.

Ithink it will make things worse if anything, the only reason Israel really don't like Arafat is because he has consistantly stood up to the Israeli's. Idon't like him, but this crap about him being an obstacle to peace is nonesense, he is an obstacle to Israel destroying more Palestinian homes and taking more Palestinian land.
The extremists on the Israeli side need to be removed aswell or the violence will just continue. Him and Sharon are obstacles to peace, but the Israelis just want to destroy whats left of the hardcore Palestinians so they can have an easier time destroying the tiny bit of land left that we know as the Palestinian terretories.

He is certainly does seem to be on the way out, so instead of fighting about this hypothetically now, lets continue this discussion in three months and see what a difference the removal/death of Arafat has made.

We shall see...

Arafat had already announced his new PM and Cabinet before any of his current health scare.

Unfortunately, it is reckoned to be only stomach flu.

news.bbc.co.uk...


As for what happens when he dies? Expect loads of infighting and terrorism amongst the Palestinians themselves. Arafat is the only cohesive force that the Palestinians have because he has managed to keep most of the terrorist groups happy in his bid to retain power.
With him dead every militant organization will be vying for the crown of leader of the Palestinian people.

It's a known fact that none of the terrorist organisations can stand each other. If you take a look at Lebanon you will see that they have a history of taking things out on each other.

I'll believe it when I see it. Its just like this scumbag to invoke sympathy when his own actions put his back to the wall. In the 30 some plus years of hostilities, Arafat remains the one constant. Everything else has been tried by several different people. he's the variable that needs removing and replacing. He doesn't want peace and he will never allow it to come about. He's like Jesse Jackson. Without racism, he'd have to get a real job and without war in the middle east, whats left for Arafat? He had everything he demanded placed before via Bill Clinton and turned his back on the whole deal. I wonder if he at least admits to himself that he made a huge mistake in doing that both for his people (like he gives a rats ass about them) and for himself.

Leveller,

that is what we want for them to slit each other's throats.

is his being the centre of the terrorist world make him no better than bin laden or Saddam?

Wow, thats interesting

The Guardian VRS the BEEB.

Both papers of high esteem, and both with differnt versions. Which one is disinfo and which is correct?

Originally posted by Leveller
Unfortunately, it is reckoned to be only stomach flu.

news.bbc.co.uk...


As for what happens when he dies? Expect loads of infighting and terrorism amongst the Palestinians themselves. Arafat is the only cohesive force that the Palestinians have because he has managed to keep most of the terrorist groups happy in his bid to retain power.
With him dead every militant organization will be vying for the crown of leader of the Palestinian people.

It's a known fact that none of the terrorist organisations can stand each other. If you take a look at Lebanon you will see that they have a history of taking things out on each other.

The beeb is left wing propaganda. The beeb is now controlled by jewish interests supporting OWO and socialism in general.

The guardian is the exact polar opposite.

Please clarify the neo, do the jews support the old world order, or the new? I'm getting rather dizzy trying to figure out which group of world controlling secretive people the jews are in favor of

Also that has to be the first time I have ever heard anyone say the BBC is controlled by Jews. You'd never guess that... well anyways...

[Edited on 10-8-2003 by Djarums]

Dj,

excellent question and one that I have spent a great deal of time and energy in the past trying to answer.

this is how I see it. The jews are major players in both sides. As a group they are split and I think that much of the battling in the world today is merely their own in fighting.

also know that when you get to the top in either camp the issue of what you are does not matter, it is the philosophy and the loyalty to the cause that is paramount.

it may even be detrimental to be jewish ultimately because the polarized viewpoints do not normally accept the jewish founding tribe. Consider the white brotherhood versus the stock european peasant for example.

needless to say the group of people that we call jewish and that identify themselves as jewish are playing a major role in the end time events but they are not in control even if in many ways they presently appear to be that is but one of the illusions of our time.

by THENEO
The beeb is left wing propaganda. The beeb is now controlled by jewish interests supporting OWO and socialism in general.

The guardian is the exact polar opposite.

Oy,oy,oy again with the ignorance!

Shows how much you know. The Gaurdian is more left wing than the BBC ever could be.

Your last post shows what your statement of the BBC is:

this is how I see it.

Exactly. That's how you see it, and that's all it is. Its your opinion and you're entitled to it, but don't present supposition as facts.

The beeb is controlled by jews? ROFL

The BBC is very impartial and the Guardian is the paper for the left wing middle class (i buy it )
They are both very well respected however the Guardians online section operates with a little more "hutzpah" than in print.

May i remind you that the israeli government banned BBC World from the airwaves in israel because it did not present a pro-israeli view.

Arafat kicking the can is definitely a good thing. I'm actually thinking of throwing a party when that evil bastard is dead.

Originally posted by goregrinder
Arafat kicking the can is definitely a good thing. I'm actually thinking of throwing a party when that evil bastard is dead.

Can i come? Will there be beer involved?
Can i wear my jewish hat too?

The current executives of the BBC are jewish.

Do your homework and shut your frickin mouths.

The BBC is left wing because when it comes to discussion about peace in the middle east, Israel is always conservative in its viewpoints (not so when it comes to domestic policies by the way).

Regarding the guardian, if it is left wing then how do you account for the subject of this discussion then?

I will await you answers but I do not expect anything to be learned.

Originally posted by THENEO
The current executives of the BBC are jewish.

Do your homework and shut your frickin mouths.

The BBC is left wing because when it comes to discussion about peace in the middle east, Israel is always conservative in its viewpoints (not so when it comes to domestic policies by the way).

Regarding the guardian, if it is left wing then how do you account for the subject of this discussion then?

I will await you answers but I do not expect anything to be learned.

I work for the BBC

notable sound of silence?

I would say the BBC is probably the most balanced news outlet around right now. They should sue Fox News(crap).
I always found the Guardian a bit to left for me but I admit it's popular.

Every day that I scan the news sites BBC is the one that I get the most useful information from. I also enjoy reading the different slants from the other sites such as CNN, MSNBC, ABCnews Peoples online daily, Pravda ect but for the whole picture?
BBC all the way.