Is this video at all related to "The Secret" which has run the gambit of internet forums as of late?

It seems like she is replaying it in her head. Preplaned or replaying? She seems to jump right along with what he is asking alittle to quick.If you take away the idea of reptilians then things add up. There needs to be something to show its real, until then there are some sick people out there that need to stop killing and playing "dark" role games....unless there is something showing its reptilians... something is up, human or not, we need to control our own actions and thoughts.

O.K. watched about a 1/2 hour of this. Wow! Probably nothing to do with "The Secret" video I thought that it might be. This woman has some very traumatic things in her past. Don't know what to make of her since I haven't been around her for a period of time. Could any of this be plausible...perhaps. She strikes me odd though. And frankly I'm a bit bothered by the way she is sitting. Good grief, if I had to talk to someone and constantly cock my head to the right to maintain eye contact I'd need rehab for a week!

Originally posted by MMP

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Does anyone else think that Icke is taking advantage of a disturbed woman to further his own agenda?

That thought has always been in the back of my mind. When ever he gives an example of some one he's talked to about the lizards it's always a woman. I suppose it's possible that the lizards only want to sexually abuse women...maybe the reptilians are homophobic!

Well if its true the point is they wanted her to BREED with, cause of her bloodline, so its nothing to do with them being homophobic,, i bet they arent anyway

So apparently this woman has had.. was it 2 babies removed? and if thats the case surely there would be some bodily proof? i dont know. Even if she was sent for an examination we wouldnt believe the dr cause he could be lying to.


Slightly off topic..

I wish to add that i once heard, if you look at a baby at 3 months it looks reptillian, (true true) and if you look at it at 6 months it looks like one of those 'greys'

(or is that the other way round?)

Either way. Imagine if they removed the babies at those stages, then incubated them, i wonder if they would grow into a reptillian.. or a grey/reptillian.. whatever, you get my point?

Doesnt sound any more crazy than all of this stuff already


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Originally posted by Freenrgy2
O.K. watched about a 1/2 hour of this. Wow! Probably nothing to do with "The Secret" video I thought that it might be. This woman has some very traumatic things in her past. Don't know what to make of her since I haven't been around her for a period of time. Could any of this be plausible...perhaps. She strikes me odd though. And frankly I'm a bit bothered by the way she is sitting. Good grief, if I had to talk to someone and constantly cock my head to the right to maintain eye contact I'd need rehab for a week!

Yeah i agree with all of that, sitting for 2 hours like that, it was the first thing i thought when i saw the setting, 'shouldnt you be more comfortable?' drinking tea even, and wheres the biscuits joke.

I just minimized the sceen and listened to the audio. I figured that she'd look the same all the way through anyway

I by no means know very much about David Icke's work. I have read a little bit here and there and it is all very interesting.

I watched about an hour of the video last night and was completely interested until Arizona started to speak. There is something that is very odd about her story and the way she presents it. Now most would say it is because of the abuse she has suffered and possible embarrassment of coming forward with her story. That is definitly not it though.

When you watch people long enough you can tell when they are not telling the truth. She may not be intentionally lying, but there is SOMETHING missing from her story. Was she repeating this information second hand? Or maybe she is not who she says she is?

I am just going to blame these questions on my "woman's intuition"

Not having watched all th evideo, does anyone know if she says what bloodline that she comes from? She's dressed very "middle class" and if she comes from one of these bloodlines, she ought to be dripping in money/power. Or is she an outcast from her family now?

Alos, she seemd to affirm every question Mr. Icke asked. Did you do so and so? Reply, yes. How about this. reply, yes. Was there anything that she said "no" to? It seemed like he was leading her with questions.


For the record, I loved the first part with Mr. Icke talking about the history and relationship between the bloodlines. That, to me, was worth seeing. I don't know if I can go out on a limb with the Reptilian stuff, but I do believe that a few do run the big show.

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Yeah it seemed as if she was saying "yes" to everything... it seemed as if the conversation was prepped beforehand.

She appears to me to be an attention seeker. Small visual cues tell me that. Notice how when she looks away, she looks back at David real quick, as if to make sure she still has his attention.

She "appears" to more or less believe what she's saying, but I think there's more of a chance that she's just a bit "mental".

Also, I read somewhere, someone who had worked with Arizona mentioned that she was quite the annoyance... in that after only working together for 2 days, Arizona started talking about the Illuminati, reptoids, etc. Like I mentioned above, she appears to like the attention. A possibility could be that some of it is true, and she makes up some things in addition to keep that "attention fix". I used to do that myself when I was a kid.

I watched the video again with my mother in law this time. She made a few distinct points.

this is a familar story..i do get patients who believe they have been abducted by aliens from time to time. Once i thought i had cracked the case because the patient said his dog got abducted too. I thought i would get the whole family in and confront him about his delusional disorder..but yes you have guessed the family agreed that he AND HIS DOG get abducted by aliens every night.
there was a psychiatrist in boston who held support groups for hs patients whom he
believed had been abducted.. He was a harvard guy and they held a meeting to decide if they should expel him because he was well on the fringe.....they decided not to.
he died last year.

the other thing you should consider is that people who have little else in their lives like to be special and like to have special diagnoses..that is a chronic problem...the diagnoses change with the times........

She continued to say that she would need more than the video provided to make a diagnosis, but based on what Arizona said, her manarisms and her eagerness to please, that she is most likely either dilusional or in exceptional need of attention.

Originally posted by firmbeliever
He is believed by some to be the creator of the world when he came out of "dark water" (dont know what that means).
The egyptians worshipped him in order to appease him, the crocodiles & to ensure the fertility of their people & crops. He is considered as the God who controlled waters.

Hey firmbeliever, could Dark Water be Dark Matter. If all that existed was dark matter and then matter entered the universe what would happen?.If this is their creation myth it would seem to make sense.

can I just say that there are - in American Parlance many leading questions in the interview ?

I think all the statements about leading questions and her not saying no to anything is maybe down to the probability they already drafted a brief outline of the interview?

Obviously you wouldnt just do it on the spot off the top of your head? You would say im going to ask this and that etc etc.. because you wana get across enough info in the video, but theres never enough time to say all anywhere so why waste time asking questions resulting in no's?

I mean.. its fading a bit but what would you have liked her to say no to?

Are reptiles ruling the world? ''no'' ......

Did the queen shapeshift? ''no''

Was joseph mengele your handler? '' no''

etc etc...

kinda kills the video?

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Anyone who beleives what she said needs to have a head examination.

She says things like "my family tells me im crazy" in the video as well a clear indication of either a lie or paranoid delusions.

I hear by challenge david Icke to proove to me without a shadow of a doubt that a reptillian or alien conspiracy really exists. I want photographic, video and audio to be posted online for us the people to analyze. People buy into this way to hard as a way to cope with their own lives when what they really need to do is seperate fact from fiction.

David should post Pictures of Reptilians and video/audio of them changing or otherwise at least provide something that doesn't sound like an LSD inspired story.

Is there a Global conspiracy between the most powerfull corperate heads and bankers as well as politicians yes. But ET does not hve anything to do with it. Proof shows us a conspiracy Skull and Bones is an example in which it's members after graduation move on to work in the highest levels of government and industry and later attend Bohemian Grove. It is not that he is 100% wrong. He is just wrong when it comes to reptilians and such

This may sound like a silly point...
Arizona said that Prince Charles & Earl Spencer are shapeshifters but at Diana's funeral Earl Spencer made some very antagonistic remarks aimed at the Royal family. I just wonder why he would do that if they are all part of the same team?
What would be the point?

I agree the first part is very interesting with David.
With the power they have why would they allow anyone to live to tell the tale? Surely they would prefer 'no questions asked' and just dispense with those who no longer want to 'play the game'.

Originally posted by The_Doctor
I hear by challenge david Icke to proove to me without a shadow of a doubt that a reptillian or alien conspiracy really exists. I want photographic, video and audio to be posted online for us the people to analyze.

How about we all go to the church of england and say similar about their god and jesus, and all their unproven beliefs? They make me more sick than davids reptiles.

Maybe the point is to just ''break the monotany' among belief systems? david doesnt have to know thats what he is doing, he may even believe his reptillian stuff... it may not matter! Maybe its just a balancing act on a deeper level than you are thinking.

Dead people on 1 scale, awake people on the other,

The dead are those who follow blind and believe others old crap, the awake are those always thinking and being open to new things and dimensions, beings, etc..



Its weird that people get mad at david, who is only annoying them few who like knowledge and dont know the truth....... yet the whole church / religion system is screwin MILLIONS every day, LEGALLY, (and they dont pay tax!) and they dont get dragged up on any stage to prove their crap?

Originally posted by The_Doctor
I hear by challenge david Icke to proove to me without a shadow of a doubt that a reptillian or alien conspiracy really exists. I want photographic, video and audio to be posted online for us the people to analyze.

Obviously by definition the 'reptillian conspiracy' does exist, just like any other conspiracy, ( the jesus conspiracy? story ) it just doesnt mean its true.

Im sure there would be videos by now tho, i dont buy that stuff about not being able to photograph them or video them because of the dimensional difference. If anybody saw them, then they can be videod or photographed.

Originally posted by syberkat

Originally posted by The_Doctor
I hear by challenge david Icke to proove to me without a shadow of a doubt that a reptillian or alien conspiracy really exists. I want photographic, video and audio to be posted online for us the people to analyze.

How about we all go to the church of england and say similar about their god and jesus, and all their unproven beliefs? They make me more sick than davids reptiles.

Hey...I take offense to that remark. I am a christian, and why would that make you sick...watch your quotes there.

Shame you have to take offence im sorry? You couldve just laughd it off. Obviously im not speaking for all of them, i myself take offence at established religions with little facts, closed minds and no proof as i said, but there ygo. We cant walk on eggshells around everybody and i dont respect what is plainly lies.

But all thats for the religion forum, sorry.

Originally posted by syberkat
Shame you have to take offence im sorry? You couldve just laughd it off. Obviously im not speaking for all of them, i myself take offence at established religions with little facts, closed minds and no proof as i said, but there ygo. We cant walk on eggshells around everybody and i dont respect what is plainly lies.

But all thats for the religion forum, sorry.

neahh, it's alright, not a big deal. Anyways, I want to know, what are your thoughts on shapeshiftin reptilians, and Arizona wilder?

My thoughts ay.. kinda all over the place every direction I have posted some rAmBlInGs.. in no order around ATS.

I really have no idea im just filling my head with more info at the moment, letting it go round and see what comes to light later.

I like womens intuition so what do you think?

I think either.... she is

1. lying /acting
2. telling the truth, or part truth
3. brainwashed/programmed, by whoever, and giving dis'info, but she believes it.
4. just plain overactive imagination and 'issues' ..and icke enforces it all unintentional.. (or intentional even, mustnt rule it out tho that would make him kinda sick)
5.

Cant think of a 5 yet but im sure ive missed a few!?

Oh and personally, i think its POSSIBLE shapeshiftin any type of beings could exist? but i just dont know if this is true, so i cant believe it.

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