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Originally posted by Stratrf_Rus
Most Americans are very "boo" to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? Why is this? Americans say "most of the hijackers were Saudis" but this is not even true.
In Saudi Arabia there is little understanding of "nationality." The people are tribal. Their allegiance to the Saud family is mostly through marriage and through force. The Saud family tried to create a "national identity" but has done [it] so poorly.
Whatever princes have been involved with al Qaeda have been executed. Yes, most of the hijackers were born in Arabia; but I refuse to call them Saudi. They did not uphold the As-Saud policy of friendship towards Americans. They were adherents of the former ideology of the Ikhwan, which was severely put-down by the “As” Sauds in the 1930s, when the Ikhwan turned on them because of their easy acceptance of western, modernistic attitudes and life-styles.
Without the sanctification of the Imams, the As-Saud family would quickly lose control of the tribes and the Arab peninsula would return to a state of civil war over control of the land. Maybe that will be a good thing but not whilst the land is so important concerning oil. [Edited for brevity by Don W]
jajabinks: “It's ridiculous that the Americans are so down on the Saudis;
1. the Saudis keep the price of oil down by always being the voice of moderation at OPEC.
2. The Saudis look the other way as America supports Israel’s exclusionist policies against Arabs, particularly America's support for a subordinated Palestinian sub-state,
3. The Saudis buy America's military hardware instead of Russian or Chinese.
4. The Saudis trade oil in Petro dollars and not Euros.
5. The Saudis refrain from using harsh language vis a vis the US like I'm doing now.
I could go on, but anyways, the Americans STILL hate the Saudis . . [Edited for cogency by Don W]
Originally posted by jajabinks
3. The Saudis buy America's useless crap, their inferior cars (at least they used to) and they buy American military hardware instead of Russian or Chinese.
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Originally posted by jajabinks
3. The Saudis buy America's useless crap, their inferior cars (at least they used to) and they buy American military hardware instead of Russian or Chinese.
Useless crap Of yeah they could have bought some sweet T-72S instead of M1A1s what a deal Instead of Apaches they could have bought Hinds
As for "Inferior" cars its just your opinion.I would take a US sports cars over any Japanese sportscar in a sec under powered over expensive junk.
In the ME most of the rich like SUVs/trucks, sedans and sportscars so much so smuggled stolen sport cars and SUVs from the US can sell for 3 times their retail value in the ME. They dont really care about great MPG of say Japanese cars. Thats not really a huge selling point in the ME.
They also buy German sedans Italian super cars they buy whatever they like there is no conspiracy making them buy USA cars thats absurd to even suggest that
[edit on 8-3-2006 by ShadowXIX]
Originally posted by marg6043
Stratrf_Rus
What are you? a member of the saud family? because if you are then you should be aware of the links of the Saud family to the Bush family when it comes to business deals and investments with the Carlyle firm.
Or perhaps you are just going to say is just propaganda.
By the way the Saud family has been known to support terror groups and finance them.
Many business deals before 9/11 with the Bin laden family and Saud family were done through the Dubai banks.
Now what is that about scrap and oil?
Oh yeah, you mean all the business and land deals that the Saud hold in the US. Right? scrap indeed.
Originally posted by Stratrf_Rus
What's wrong with Bush having business deals...oh that's right...you're a poor hippy communist who hates investment and thus you're poor...but you'll just blame "the Man" for it.
Originally posted by marg6043
Originally posted by Stratrf_Rus
What's wrong with Bush having business deals...oh that's right...you're a poor hippy communist who hates investment and thus you're poor...but you'll just blame "the Man" for it.
Or. . . perhaps you are just pushing your brand of propaganda to bring points to your thread.
I see that that is what you want, good luck but this nothing more than rant.