Ok, i've been asked to post this by the ATS chat room people, whom I told it to last week and tonight.
I cannot ever give sources or names, because as you see, its not your run of the mill reptilian story.

Salisbury plain, UK. Live fire ? exercise.

Captain Y and 4 special forces troopers were approaching a tree line late evening, when the captain gets his men to drop and watch the tree line. Captain Y drops his bergan (Rucksack) and tells his men he will be back asap, but he wants to view the line before moving on. 5 minutes later Y comes screaming back, firing into the tree line. does not bother to grab his kit, but screams at his men to fire on the tree line and run.

They do this, because Y is a 7 year SF veteran and no p####. Y unloads a full 30 rounds into the line, and heads off, followed by his men shooting and running. 4 hours or so later they are picked up by military police and taken straight to base. The story is told to MP's and CO, and Y is faced with Court martial.

gets to the day, and Y's defence is that as he approached the tree line, he saw in a field a huge black silent triangle. Under this triangle was an American military member ( Uniform seen ) hearding people onto this triangle. Y states that he saw a 6 to 7 foot tall bipedal reptilian looking creature with the us serviceman, and was seen by the creature in the tree line. Y's response was to open fire and run, and grab his men and exit the area.

Y was sentanced to 1 year secure detention and given a dishonourable discharge from the Armed Forces.

All 4 troopers were RTU'd back into there services, and all soon left the forces with dishonourable discharges on their records due to various reasons.

I trust Y with this one. He is a solid dependable guy, been seen and done some tough stuff, and theres one more reason why I trust him.

All 4 troopers told the MP's that yes, they did see a huge 100 foot triangle lift silently into the sky and yes they did fire at it to no visible effect.


Please do not flame, or ask any other details. No times, no dates, no units. This is his words through me because it needs to be told.

Originally posted by MadGreebo
Please do not flame, or ask any other details. No times, no dates, no units. This is his words through me because it needs to be told.

then why post it?

can you get him to come here, or to answer questions from us?

seems like a pretty major story to post and then end with "don't ask me any questions"

I said no times dates or units. Thats all.

I have their story to go on, and I accept the fact that as i was not there, i cannot know all that went on. I posted becsause I told it to chat, and chat wanted a thread started to get peoples thoughts about what i said. Thats why i posted.

Ok, details. Weapons used, M4's - amount of ammo used 150 + rounds. Rounds not seen to damage risining craft at all. Details of the craft.
100 feet from tip to tip. Silent, but with three white lights on underside of tips, and a blue / green nose light, and a visible join around the area of the descending hatch that the people walked up, the skin was not one piece or totaly smooth but like the underside of an aircraft. US personell was dressed in airforce uniform with a black beret on. Badge unidentified, but was four stars clusterd at the bottom and a vertical hand holding a planet on it, on the left arm. The reptile was un-clothed and very heavy set, at around 6 -7 feet tall in comparison with the man.

roughly ten / twelve people seen entering the craft. None appeared to be complainig or fighting at all what was happening. Y was seen, exited area.

Thats all I know, and thats all i have been told.

Why did this Captain fire on a person he identified US personal, wouldn't it have been more prudent to stop and observe what was taking place and report it back to his commanding officer.
I find it strange that a Captain, 7 year vet would open fire not knowing all the facts.
Where they in danger from this entity and the American.
Interesting story all the same though.

Originally posted by SauronI find it strange that a Captain, 7 year vet would open fire not knowing all the facts.
Where they in danger from this entity and the American.
Interesting story all the same though.

I've never been in the military so I have no idea as to the proper procedures in these kinds of instances but I'll ask this anyway. The captain and his men were patrolling an area in the UK and they are (were) UK special forces so I'm assuming they were simply keeping their skills honed and not on any formal operation. If so, they mustn't have been very far from a base. Now, given that they were in the UK and probably not too far from a base, wouldn't it have been wise to radio back to base to see if there was any activity in the area that they should be aware of? A call for the purpose of finding out if the craft was friendly before opening fire on it?


the subsequent courtm martial and the one year detention indicates that the british military wanted to keep this guy quiet for a period which would imply that the brits knew what was going on or thought the guy was nuts. Let's assume the former. If the brits knew about the american military operation with giant geckos, wouldn't they have steered this guy away from the landing site in the first place? wouldn't they have warned the special forces to stay away or warned the americans to stay away from certian areas?

12 people boarding the craft? was this an exchange program with another planet in the ....I'm kidding.

eerr ok. A six to seven foot reptile. Loading humans onto a 100 foot triangle, at night, in silent. The reptile sees you. You have no desire to get lifted with the others and you have an assault rifle and are very good with it.

No brainer really. Scared and unwilling to get lifted, i'd shoot first, run second, and ask questions well after the event.

Y shoots first, runs second, never asks another question ever again because he saw what he saw, reacted to what he saw in the way he did because of sheer fear, and you know what? I believe him.

I may get flamed on here, you all might look at it in the cold light of day and give your opinions, but none of us were there, none of us saw what he saw, so none of us are fit to judge what he did and why.

Im sorry i posted this - Im not expecting applause, but I sat on this for a few years telling no one, then was asked by ATS peeps to share, so i did. Wish i hadn't of bothered now.

why are you sorry you posted it? there are obvious questions, like how a captain, watching strange activity on UK soil would not radio in to base for intel or additional support. if you didn't want to tell people, why post it?

don't say "because they told me to" as that answer will garner the "if they told you to jump off a bridge, would you?" response.

Crakeur,
its getting late, you on exercise, you go to a tree line and see A TOTALY SILENT 100 FOOT TRIANGLE LOADING HUMANS ABOARD. YOU SEE A 6 - 7 FOOT REPTILIAN BEING. ITS SEES YOU. wtf? and YOU expect him to operate by the book on that one when he's just been seen by a reptilian bipedal being ?? OK I geuss you expect him to stay, observe, risk getting taken or worse BY A 6-7 FOOT REPTILE...

look at it this way. Would YOU stay and not freak if you saw this happening? Say you wouldn't freak and you'd stay and i'll call you a liar.

This was not a training event. The craft was loading humans aboard. It was a silent triangle. There was a reptilian being. You expect rational behaviour after seeing this? Fight or Flight response. Look it up and come back to me with a response.

Originally posted by MadGreebo
Crakeur,
its getting late, you on exercise, you go to a tree line and see A TOTALY SILENT 100 FOOT TRIANGLE LOADING HUMANS ABOARD. YOU SEE A 6 - 7 FOOT REPTILIAN BEING. ITS SEES YOU. wtf? and YOU expect him to operate by the book on that one when he's just been seen by a reptilian bipedal being ?? OK I geuss you expect him to stay, observe, risk getting taken or worse BY A 6-7 FOOT REPTILE...

look at it this way. Would YOU stay and not freak if you saw this happening? Say you wouldn't freak and you'd stay and i'll call you a liar.

This was not a training event. The craft was loading humans aboard. It was a silent triangle. There was a reptilian being. You expect rational behaviour after seeing this? Fight or Flight response. Look it up and come back to me with a response.

as I said, I have no military experience so I don't know protocols but I'm assuming a captain does, and follows them. a captain who panics and starts shooting at the tree line had to have been scared beyond belief, what with the military base being so close and the whole radar and whatnot protecting said base and the ability to radio back to the base to see if they picked this up.

rendelsham had radio reports all over the place.
almost every strange ocurrance at a military base has personel radioing BACK TO BASE for aid, assistance, confirmation etc. your guy took it upon himself to split from his group and then came back running and shooting.

you tell me, doesn't THAT seem odd, from a Captain in the military?

crakeur... where did you get a base and radar from?? It was on Salisbury plain... do you know how big salisbury plain is?? Its freaking huge!

At no time did I say he was on, near or by a base. Not once. Don't try and make me seem silly from your words because they are not mine but yours alone.

There was no base. There was no support. There was five men, one 100 foot triangle, a 6-7 foot bipedal reptilian being and a member of the US forces.

Y got SEEN by said reptilian being. Y fired and ran to SAVE his own life and that of his MEN. Its that simple. The being was TAKEING humans onboard said triangle.



Y was not picked up till 4 hours later....

Y may have paniced, but even a Captain is a slave to his physiology - Fight or Flight. He saw what would be a nightmare for most of us.

Please read my post, ask questions but don't you dare try and twist what i have written. There was NO base, ther was NO radar. He and his men were on FOOT.

Note to MOD: Please close mythread or delete it. Thank you.

[edit on 6-3-2006 by MadGreebo]

Hi MadGreebo

scary story this. Seems so bizarre you have to believe it! Funny thing is, it fits in also with the hacker who got in the US military net and found references to the Space Units or whatever it was doesn't it? The cap badge and uniform bit seem to fit too! I'll see if I can find a link to this - see what you think - have to be tomorrow though as it's late here.

Good story